> What's the actual problem with including ntpviz in the standard install
Anything that triggers a surprise dependency to load libx, a font renderer, or a font pack onto a ssh & text console -only host gets a veto from me. ..m On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM Eric S. Raymond <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Hal Murray <hmur...@megapathdsl.net>: > > As long as they don't get installed, I don't think the ntp prefix is > > important. > > Nevertheless, I think we should maintain namespace discipline even for > the uninstalled stuff. It's not always easy to predict what will *remain* > uninstalled. > > >A hyphen after the ntp might make them easier to read. > > But harder to remember when you're typing. I actually thought about > this pretty carefully before squeezing hyphens out of the program > names at the time of the fork. I didn't do that casually. > > The problem is that there's no generative rule for where to hyphenate > in names like these that is both intuitively correct and simple to > apply on the fly. So if you use hyphens you're implicitly putting on > users the cognitive burden of remembering semi-arbitrary locations. > > To illustrate the problem, consider the different ways ntpkeygen might > be hyphenated: > > ntpkeygen > ntp-key-gen > ntp-keygen > ntpkey-gen > > Generally when you hyphenate a compound like that, you're expressing a > judgment about which subset of parts are tightly bound to each other > (and should be wordlike) vs. which subparts are more loosely coupled > and deserve an intermediating hyphen. It's *hard* to form a simple > generative rule for this, and harder to apply it consistently across > multiple names. You get into fuzzy issues about what the semantic > units are; effectively you have to commit to preferring one of > multiple competing phrase parsings for the expansion of the name. > > So I just said "screw it" and ripped all the hyphens out. Simplest thing, > and I think we should stick to it. > > > We need to figure out how to handle ntpviz and friends. I think it > should > > NOT be part of the standard install set. At a minimum, there should be > an > > easy way to skip it during install. > > I've forgotten. What's the actual problem with including ntpviz in > the standard install? > -- > <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond</a> > > Please consider contributing to my Patreon page at > https://www.patreon.com/esr > so I can keep the invisible wheels of the Internet turning. Give > generously - > the civilization you save might be your own. > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > devel@ntpsec.org > http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >
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