As told in this thread a broader scope within the OSS community could drive to something interesting: no ones has evaluated this? https://chatsecure.org/blog/fixing-the-xmpp-push-problem/ ? https://github.com/ChatSecure/ChatSecure-Push-Server
Michele 2016-02-09 21:16 GMT+01:00 george b <scooterschors...@gmail.com>: > Hello > > I agree with you, that Jolla is currently not in a good financial > situation. So a Push Service is for sure not a top priority for them. > > Maybee we can get a better acceptance as a community project together with > the guys from plasma mobile. Last year they started with great passion to > implement a mobile plattform, based on the kde and plasma project. Sooner > or later they will get a the point, where this plattform has also the need > for a working push service. > > I will ask in the plasma mobile forum if there is some interesst... > > Bye > Georg > > > > 2016-02-08 11:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas B. Rücker <tho...@ruecker.fi>: > >> On 02/07/2016 12:45 PM, r0kk3rz wrote: >> > I wouldn't bet on Jolla hosting such a thing, this was raised by a >> > community member some time ago and afaik Jolla didn't show any interest. >> >> To clarify, there was interest, but only as far as observing my research >> into this subject. Given that they constantly had and will have far too >> much on their plate and are severely cash limited, this is not that >> surprising. A working push service probably never was enough of a >> priority, neither in terms of engineer time nor paying someone external >> (e.g. me) to get it to work. >> >> >> > For MQTT tbr made a patched apache paho mqtt client which a number of >> > sailfish os users have been using quite successfully for some time now: >> > https://github.com/dm8tbr/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python >> >> That's unfortunately a rather old fork of the python library. As I've >> coincidentally added TLS capability to the test server yesterday, I'll >> be revisiting it soon. Also as I want to look into MQTT over websockets. >> >> There is also a C/C++ library, libmosquitto. I think I also patched that >> with IPHB support at some point, but probably didn't push it to a public >> repository. >> >> >> > This could be rolled into a service without too much trouble really. >> >> Yes, there is a bare bones client service example using it here: >> https://github.com/dm8tbr/irssi-mqtt-sailfish >> >> All it does is forward a two line MQTT message as a Sailfish >> notification. I wrote it as a demonstration and to scratch my itch of >> receiving IRC notifications on my phone. (There is also a irssi script >> counterpart) >> >> A more proper deployment of a MQTT based push service would be the >> direction for any wider use. I did some initial architecture work and >> had started exploratory work on Trusor and Nuntius, respectively the >> server and client side daemons. This work has laid dormant for about a >> year now, as there was no interest from Jolla to invest into it, nor was >> there sufficient community momentum. >> >> Given Jolla's current situation, I very much doubt, that such a service >> would be of any priority to justify internal or external investment. So >> if, then it would need to come out of the community. >> >> Actually not just the Sailfish/Nemo/Mer community, but essentially >> anywhere in the open source community at large, as such a system could >> be universally useful. At that time it would be good to check if there >> is anything comparable meanwhile that could be used instead. >> >> >> > However I think the whisper systems guys need to have their own rather >> > than relying on android/ios integrated features. Whether this is based >> > on MQTT or websockets or some other method of their devising is up to >> > them. >> >> Their choice of using platform notification frameworks sounds sensible. >> The downside is, that alternative platforms won't have such services, at >> least not with user numbers justifying the engineering effort of adding >> it. >> >> >> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:35 PM, george b <scooterschors...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:scooterschors...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > I did some more search on this issue. >> > >> > With libmosquitto and some client implementation (thank you, >> > Yuvraaj), the push service may be possbile with the Mer >> > testplattform. >> > >> > The problem with this is, that the guys from whisper systems have >> > to include this push service within there server application. But >> > I didn't think that they would do this with an experimental server. >> > >> > So what we really need is to get Jolla or the Mer Project to set >> > up a reliable push service with an good API... >> > >> >> See above. >> >> >> > >> > Bye >> > Georg >> > >> > 2016-02-02 20:00 GMT+01:00 Yuvraaj <yuvr...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:yuvr...@gmail.com>>: >> > >> > I had ported libmosquitto to Diablo and Maemo so that I could >> > use it in my app qgvdial. >> > I've even pulled out the class I used into a separate >> > repository so that anyone else can use it: >> > https://github.com/uvatbc/simplify/tree/master/qt/mqclient >> > >> > Hope this helps. >> > -UV >> > >> > >> > On 02/02/2016 06:04 AM, Tone Kastlunger wrote: >> >> AFAIK, someone had putted together a concept-proof push >> service. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Erik Lundin >> >> <e...@lists.lun.nu <mailto:e...@lists.lun.nu>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Den 2016-02-01 kl. 19:58, skrev george b: >> >> >> >> The only missing thing is a working push service to >> >> get a real user >> >> experience with a messaging application. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know something about that? I didn't find >> >> any good resources >> >> about this topic on the internet. >> >> >> >> >> >> There exists a question about that at TJC [1]. One idea, >> >> described at [2], seems to be to use an MQTT based >> >> service. Not much seems to have happened the last years >> >> though. >> >> >> >> I'm not involved in any of this myself but thought I >> >> could share what I have seen, since I also think it would >> >> be nice with some push service for SFOS. >> >> >> >> /Erik >> >> >> >> [1] >> >> >> https://together.jolla.com/question/9724/push-notifications/ >> >> [2] >> >> >> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Middleware/PushNotifications >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Thomas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > -- michele tameni
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