On 10.12.2015 00:02, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 December 2015 13:37:12 Paul Wouters wrote:
>> On 12/09/2015 01:04 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote:
>>> Since this is likely to break networking on a lot of client-side systems, I 
>>> would have expected you to do this research before submitting it as a System
>>> Wide Change.
>>
>> We did. We are the First at undertaking this at an OS level. If the others
>> proceed they will run in the exact same issue. The problem of broken and
>> badly designed DNS setups is, is that they only go away when it finally
>> breaks down.
> 
> OK, but currently it's hard to estimate the amount of real-world breakage.
> 
> E.g: if 90% of user setups will break -- the backlash would damage not only 
> Fedora,
>      but also DNSSEC adoption.
> 
> Why don't we plan this feature in two stages:
>  * Fedora 24: turn it on by default, but *keep using results* from bad DNS 
> servers,
>    just issue a user-visible warning, possibly with a link to a page with 
> friendly
>    explanation and suggestions for further action.
> 
>  * Fedora 25: we would have much better view of the amount and types of 
> failures
>    in real world (from F24). This would enable to improve/fine-tune the ways
>    to handle problematic use-cases.
>    So at that stage, we may ship DNSSEC as "fail-bad-DNS-servers-by-default".
> 
> Make sense?

It certainly makes sense, and if read

https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver

and pages linked from

https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver#Documentation

you will find yourself that that is basically what we intended to do, with few
tweaks.

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Petr Spacek  @  Red Hat
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