On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:11:39PM -0400, Gary Gatling wrote: > > > I realize we have our guidelines and we're not Debian, Suse or > Ubuntu... > > > and that's a good thing. But, if we're making exceptions for Firefox > > > because of it's popularity shouldn't we do the same for Chromium. > > I agree with Gerald. If there are exceptions for firefox due to > popularity > > then chromium deserves the same bundling exceptions. Otherwise we are not > > being fair. > > It's important to note that "popularity" is not the sole reason for > exceptions for Firefox. Overall, everyone should review the existing > discussion in the guidelines about bundling exceptions and consider how > this might fit in (possibly including revisions if they make sense): > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries#Some_reasons_you_might_be_granted_an_exception > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Project Leader > -- > packaging mailing list > packag...@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging While it is true that Chromium does indeed bundle a lot more than Firefox does, I think they've also been putting in quite a bit of work into actually solving this problem[0]. To be absolutely fair to Chromium, they recognized the issue very quickly after they started making Linux releases. On top of the fact that Chromium development moves extremely quickly[1] and they appear to be quite responsive on security issues and work hard to design the application to be secure in itself[2]. If I remember correctly, it was Chromium's rapid development pace that triggered Firefox's own development practices to change[3]. I think that it's hard for us to continue to ignore Chromium, too. Despite everything, Chrome is preferred web browser by Fedorans second to Firefox, and not by a wide margin with Google+ users and a somewhat wide margin with Facebook users[4]. I imagine the lack of Chromium in Fedora is pretty much the reason for low usage and Firefox being default the reason for it remaining the top browser. If there's a huge stopper of some kind, we should engage with the Chromium folks more directly on solving it. I don't know exactly what that would involve, but we should do something about it, I think. [0]: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 [1]: https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel [2]: https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security [3]: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2506843/desktop-apps/firefox-follows-chrome-lead--eyes-faster-releases.html [4]: https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/most-popular-web-browsers-among-fedora-users/ -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!
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