On Sep 11, 2014, at 2:51 AM, P J P <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Hello Chris,
> 
>> On Wednesday, 10 September 2014 9:15 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Well I have no idea what's on the screen at the time of the hang. Maybe a 
>> cell phone photo would be useful. Or maybe you should use the debug kernel 
>> which 
>> was one of Paul Wouters suggestions. Or you could go out on a limb and see 
>> if 
>> the problem is happening with 3.17rc4 non-debug which is 
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=575871
>> 
>> There are lots of kernels. Unless you really want to do kernel 
>> troubleshooting, 
>> you might just pick a kernel that works.
> 
>  Yes, I've resorted to 3.15 for now. Will look at 3.16 again later, got a 
> sosreport yesterday by trying 3.16 on a F20 VM.

If you can reproduce this hang in a VM things are much easier to troubleshoot 
by setting up a serial console; and then booting the VM with params: rd.debug 
rdudevdebug systemd.log_level=debug systemd.log_target=console 
console=ttyS0,38400

That'll be extremely verbose, but at least you can scroll.

Chris Murphy
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