On 20 June 2014 12:04, Mat Booth <fed...@matbooth.co.uk> wrote: > On 20 June 2014 11:50, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > >> >> >> Am 20.06.2014 12:36, schrieb Mat Booth: >> > On 20 June 2014 11:19, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto: >> h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Am 20.06.2014 11:57, schrieb Mat Booth: >> > > On 20 June 2014 10:19, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net >> <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net> >> > <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>>> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > Am 20.06.2014 08:55, schrieb drago01: >> > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jared K. Smith >> > > > <jsm...@fedoraproject.org <mailto:jsm...@fedoraproject.org> >> <mailto:jsm...@fedoraproject.org >> > <mailto:jsm...@fedoraproject.org>>> wrote: >> > > >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Reindl Harald < >> h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net> >> > <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net <mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>>> >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> Whether you like it or not, one of the most common >> complaints about yum >> > > >> (especially from people coming from another package >> management system) is >> > > >> that it seems slow because of the necessity to download >> the metadata. The >> > > >> DNF developers -- in trying to address this common >> complaint -- had solved >> > > >> it by handling metadata in a different way. They've also >> added settings so >> > > >> that power users like you and I can tune it to better fit >> our particular >> > > >> needs. >> > > >> >> > > >>> and *no* traffic is not cheap everywhere, by far not >> > > >> >> > > >> I probably understand this better than a lot of people on >> this list, as I've >> > > >> been on a bandwidth-limited connection for the past nine >> years. Only in the >> > > >> past month have I been able to get high speed internet in >> my home that >> > > >> wasn't limited to a few gigabytes per month. So yes, I >> completely >> > > >> understand that traffic isn't cheap (or fast) everywhere. >> > > > >> > > > It should be at least smart enough to not do it on mobile >> broadband >> > > > (like packagekit does) >> > > >> > > how should it do that? >> > > >> > > it's imagination that any software knows anything about the >> internet connection >> > > even 11 years ago with a 56k modem that access was shared for >> my LAN and so >> > > the only thing the notebook knew about the inernet was >> "appears to be slow" >> > > >> > > IIRC, NetworkManager's DBus API should be able to give you that >> information >> > >> > from where should it get that information if your network >> connection is >> > a Gigabit-Ethernet LAN to the router with a slow DSL upstream? >> > >> > your whole machine has no idea about your WAN connection >> > >> > Woah there... The suggestion was to simply let it be "smart enough to >> not do it on mobile broadband" to which you >> > asked "how?" >> > >> > I answered only that question >> >> again: >> >> * 3G stick aka mobile broadband as WAN connection >> * that WAN connection is shared in the LAN >> * the single machines don't know anything about the WAN connection >> >> believe it or not, but here in austria it's not uncommon to get a >> box with 3G and on the other end a ethernet-port where you connect >> your devices and have some hundret MB per month >> >> in the meantime many of that packages are going in the direction >> ulimited traffic, but that's nothing you can be sure about as >> OS supplier >> >> > Well sure, but there's no sense in throwing out all imperfect solutions > because of a desire for perfection. Don't you agree that a good first step > would be to teach DNF how to talk to NetworkManager? > > 3G internet is common in my locale too -- this would at least cover the > use case of connecting with a 3G dongle or tethered mobile phone. > > In fact this already seems to be listed in the Feature Backlog, so that's great!
https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-backlog -- Mat Booth http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
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