Am 14.06.2014 15:48, schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > Le 14/06/2014 15:15, Reindl Harald a écrit : >> >> stop that trolling > > Weren't you the one trolling here? Because that's what many people are > thinking about this thread.
backed by what data? > Don't you think that turning every discussion on DNF into a flame war is > helpful or serves your purpose ? Even the > ones where the maintainer requests feedback and help to improve the very same > points you're complaining about ? don't you think if after i made clear my point of view a handful people starting quibbling is the real reason for become a flamewar? > In a community, there are mainly two ways to influence its direction: > a) do things yourself > b) convincing the others that you're right > > Like many here, you're not doing a) and you're doing poorly b), so either try > to tone down your argumentation or > learn how to use jedi mind tricks. tell that the two people who go repeatly off-topic >> "to maintain yum in the long term" is a completly different thing than >> keep *full compatibility* - compatibility is independet from the YUM >> code itself > > You were requesting that the Fedora Packages manager keeps the same user > interface > and behavior *forever* no matter how much broken it is what eactly is broken in the CLI? > DNF has done a pretty good work, in keeping compatibility with yum. Besides, > DNF is > basically yum 4.0, nobody would complain if we were to break UI/behavior > compatibility. that must be why "dnf remove kernel" kills your system >>> Yet, I still do not see you offering any help to achieve that, only you >>> requiring it. >> as you do not offering to do the work of re-view and adopt >> any existing script and howto out there > > Fedora is not entitled to maintain third-party scripts but we might provide > you some help if *you* ask. it would be enough not breaking them or stop pretend you create a operating system if Fedora drives in a direction to be a only self contained appliance with no care for other software running on tp of >> you understand that any compatibility break is a side effect for the user? > > You're not the only one who cares about user experience, please read the > proposal. > "This change will be completely transparent for users that use only the > graphical > package management tools. For anybody using the command line directly there > will > be some differences, but all the important operations are > available with DNF, using the same CLI syntax." oh yeah - proposals is that the same one pretending a lower memory footprint while "dnf upgrade" on a VM with 192 MB RAM get killed by the kernel while "yum reinstall \*" works fine? 250 MB RAM is a bad joke for a single process i have servers wich are doing the ir complete workload with less over months > I'm answering you out of kindness, but keep it the gentleman way or i'll > request moderation, thanks nice - threaten with moderation because you don't like someones opinion
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