Hey there, So I’m one of the authors of PEP453, the original implementor of ensurepip, and a pip maintainer. I know that pip (and other language level package managers) have a sort of love/hate (sometimes more of one or the other!) relationship with the downstream Linux packagers. I know that PEP453 also puts more focus on this in general since it's now a recommendation for pip to be installed if Python is.
So I'd like to say that If there are problems I'd like to help fix them. Especially if there are problems with pip that make you nervous/upset/sad with having it tied so closely to Python. Also generally about making less headache for distros where pip is involved (pip and the OS package manager stomping on each other etc). To start off this goal I've filed https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1668 to figure out how pip can get our defaults to the point where most users will be installing to ~/.local/ instead of the system location. If there's more things pip can do I'd love to know about them, or if ensurepip or the PEP453 processes have something I can help with too :) ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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