On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Orion Poplawski <or...@cora.nwra.com> wrote:

> On 03/07/2014 09:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski <or...@cora.nwra.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning
>>>>>> Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>>>>>> Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I this project dead?  I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots 
>>>>> and roller-derby sounded promising.  Any other tools out there?
> 
>> 
>> Orion didn't mention /home, and Roller Derby doesn't directly address it 
>> either.  Both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper can, but snapshots coincide 
>> with system updates. More useful is a regularly timed snapshot of the user's 
>> home, .e.g. hourly with age based clean-up.
> 
> I'm actually not that interested in tying in with yum updates etc.  I'm just 
> looking for a tool that might help with managing LVM snapshots in general - 
> and specifically for managing snapshots of VMs.  Something I could perhaps 
> say have take a snapshot every X hours and keep the latest Y snapshots.

I don't think Roller Derby applies here. Virt-manager and virsh support VM 
snapshots. 

You could schedule snapshots with a script using virsh. But I don't know that 
it will create LVM snapshots, and even if it did you wouldn't want it to 
because they're slow. There soon will be LVM thinp support in libvirt but I 
don't think it's there yet. Instead, use qcow2 files for this. In my "Fedora 20 
installation as a benchmarking tool" tests, the fastest installs I got were 
Btrfs in the guest, writing into a qcow2 file with xattr +C on a Btrfs host, 
with the unsafe cache setting. Even plain ext4 on an LV wasn't faster.


Chris Murphy

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