2014-02-22 3:08 GMT+01:00 Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com>:

> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:38 PM, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
>
> > That makes a lot of sense, but I'd like to add that when doing custom
> partitioning, you can easily spend the bulk of your actual interaction time
> getting the partitioning customized exactly the way you want and when
> anaconda crashes,
>
> What you're essentially suggesting is the necessary trade off between
> stability and features isn't being balanced, in your experience. I'd agree
> with that assessment. I've done hundreds of Windows installs and thousands
> of OS X installs and those installers never crash. Ever. Seriously never.
> You can throw the most bizarre crap at them, even a disk with 42 partitions
> of just linux and BSD and they don't crash. And what interaction time? It's
> point and install. There's nothing to interact with because there are no
> options.
>
> > However, when I have my admin hat on, I want flexibility.
>
> I don't find that a compelling argument for many reasons, not least of
> which is the tens of thousands of OS X and Windows admins who get few
> install time layout choices, and they seem quite content.



The necessary context to add here is that both OS X and Windows have much
better _post-install_ layout choices.  Both can convert a non-encrypted
filesystem to encrypted post-installation, online, without significant
downtime.  Re: LVM, IIRC OS X is setting up CoreStorage by default; Windows
uses plain partitions, but can convert plain partitions into Dynamic Disks
without backup&restore.

The capabilities of the underlying storage stacks are different, so a great
UI for one may not be an acceptable UI for the other.
    Mirek
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