first: be sure after the style of replies like yours i will hestitate try to make compilemts again in the public because the aggresive way you react leads nowhere else then flamewars
Am 25.01.2014 21:26, schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > Le 25/01/2014 20:40, Reindl Harald a écrit : >> i think sometimes some nice words are worth >> >> F19/F20 so far are great releases with nearly zero regressions >> possibly because RHEL7 is cooked based on F19/F20 and partyl Rawhide > > No, all the merit is due to Fedora contributors and our efforts to improve > the quality of the overall distro. > Fedora is *community-driven*, implying that RHEL7 may be one of the cause of > that success is rude to the > contributors whether they are paid or not by Red Hat wow - even if someone makes a compliment it is taken rude - impressive the difference shortly before a new RHEL release is that the timeframe is *much* more important for the RH folks than some random release accept it or not - you can't change the facts - period >> the only downside currently are some systemd mis-behaviors hopefully >> resolved before F19 is EOL and F20 becomes mandatory on servers >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788 >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820 >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572 >> >> i really appreciate the distribution and only wish some major >> features in F15-F17 would not appear again from the viewpoint >> of their user-impact by "be first for a too high price" > > "In cauda venenum" > Please read Fedora mission statement: i do not need to read it 100 times > "The Fedora Project's mission is to *lead* the advancement of free and open > source software and content as a > collaborative community." (emphasis is mine) so what - lead does not mean "lead for every price at any moment of time" > I'm proud that we did these disruptive changes, because if we didn't, they > might never have happened you could be even more proud if they would have happened anyways but not that disruptive > Many Fedora contributors feel the same (and a consequent number disagree too). > We're not doing to get the first place, just to bring and help mature the > changes we feel right: systemd is one of > them. And what happened later proved us that we were right. and systemd with the state of F16/F17 and more server packages converted to systemd-units would not have been that disruptive - period - in general systemd is a great improvement and honestly before F15 was released the description and goals where things i really loved to see, but not in a hurry, not in that state
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