On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kof...@chello.at> wrote:

> Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> a) Do we all agree that we need to solve this?
> 
> No.
> 
> We should not compromise our design principles (and, e.g., endorse an 
> abominable hack like SCLs) just to allow obsolete applications to run on 
> current versions of Fedora or the other way round. Current applications need 
> to work with current libraries.

What is this, the chupa mi pito platform? Do it my way or GTFO?

If you like the idea of always reinventing the wheel seemingly for no good 
reason, or just to use the latest flavored language of the day, then great.

And if you want Fedora to be a highly questionable development platform where 
applications appear and disappear quickly, and are at best migrated to more 
stable platforms because, wow, they actually have more users who have better 
things to do than update their OS every week, then great.

But I'm thinking that the human race hasn't yet innovated the solution to the 
problem of how to have an aggressively evolving platform that's also stable. So 
far we have Apple's two OS's, which drive developers nuts because of how many 
APIs are deprecated every cycle, but hey many are making money so they tolerate 
it. And then on the opposite spectrum we have crusty Windows with such ABI/API 
stability that you can run 25 year old applications on it, with a commensurate 
platform innovation that almost excites the typical house plant.

I think there's another option to the FU new is inherently good even if it's 
unstable approach to creating a development platform.


Chris Murphy
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