Reindl Harald wrote:
> i am using updates-testing over years and often enough koji-packages too
> there are not much "barely" and problemtaic tested updates at all
> if someone wnats a system with less to zero updates he is using the
> wrong distribution and better suited with RHEL

+1, the frequent updates are one of Fedora's strengths (see also the "First" 
principle). Fewer updates mean fewer bugfixes and thus more bugs!

> "truly standalone" is static linked
> 
> *no* the people using Linux systems does not want the Windows/Apple
> way where everyting carries his whole libraries and never ever get
> updated and the ones who think that they want are using the wrong
> operating system
> 
> that may sound hard but it is the truth

+1 to that, and (ergo) -1 to app-store-like or OS-X-dmg-like applications 
which bundle the world. Throwing out decades of work on dependency 
resolution and going back to bundling with all its problems 
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries) is not 
acceptable.

        Kevin Kofler

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