On 21 October 2013 11:08, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:00:59AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > Don't we have this same conversation every two years? With pretty much
> the
> > same questions and feeling of disconnectedness? We fix a couple of
> things,
> > and then get back to doing stuff and then wake up and go "where did
> > everyone go?"  [I know we have had this almost exact conversation back in
> > 2009 and almost the same in 2011. I remember something similar in 2007.
> It
> > may happen more often than that but I remember those more clearly.]
>
> This suggests we need a bigger fix.


Well one of the problems is that most of the people I know who bring this
up or feel this way are very concentrated on something else for some time
and then when they get a break from that.. look around and don't feel
connected with whatever is going on now. However that is pretty normal for
humans.. the problems are that it is hard to get them reintegrated because
the other groups are all concentrating on something else and won't care
about the others unless a) it affects what they themselves are working on
or b) they come up for air around the same time.

The way human cultures deal with this normally is various social times
(drinking, eating, talking, being around each other) which is a) hard with
an online organization and b) something that many computer people hate
doing. Fudcons help a bit in this but they really don't bring together the
old group and new group together regularly enough to be a proper solution.

The other way it works is that the people who feel like outsiders leave and
go somewhere else to set up their own community or find a group they like
they can link up with. This is what we see happen a lot and we fret about
it constantly.


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
-- 
devel mailing list
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Reply via email to