On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý <msu...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
>> 
>> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering net>, Matthew
>> Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject org>
>> 
>> No longer install a traditional syslog service by default. (Specifically,
>> remove rsyslog from the @core or @standard groups in comps.)
>> 
>> The systemd journal will be the default logging solution. Rsyslog, Syslog-NG,
>> and even traditional sysklogd will continue to cover use cases outside of the
>> default.
> 
> My voice may be one of thousands, but I'm saying: I want to have traditional 
> syslog service as default and have journal from systemd as option.

I concur. I have systems that live in a heterogeneous environment and need 
traditional syslog. By making it optional, it will ultimately die, forcing 
journal as the only viable option in a Fedora environment. This is IMO not net 
beneficial for downstream use cases later on either.

Jon.
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