+1 On Mar 12, 2013 7:37 AM, "Dan Mashal" <dan.mas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> > wrote: > > > > > > Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: > >> > >> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit : > >>>> Von: Máirín Duffy > >>>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote: > >>>>> Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present? > >>>> > >>>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at that > >>>> point. For example, translations - can we render Indic or CJK glyphs > to > >>>> the screen at this point in the boot process? I'm not quite sure > that's > >>>> possible? Another thing with translations is they take up additional > >>>> disk space and I think (don't quote me on this, maybe Peter or one of > >>>> the other grub experts could speak up) grub2 is a bit chubby compared > to > >>>> grub, but its space usage is a concern so to not have to have all the > >>>> translation files for the languages we support would definitely be > good. > >>>> (grub2's girth is one of the reasons - on upstream's recommendation - > >>>> that we don't allow installing the bootloader to a partition now.) > >>> > >>> What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut to > >>> trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the lines: > >>> "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader" > >> > >> Plymouth is not a mandatory boot process element right now, precisely > >> because people who cared about fast boot found it unnecessary, and > people > >> who cared about maintainability also found it got in the way. Please do > >> not advocate hardwiring it again > > > > plymouth is a no-go as requirement > > > > "rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0" are my first kernel params on a lot of > machines > > > > [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/90-plymouth.conf > > omit_dracutmodules+="plymouth" > > > > is present on ANY machine i maintain > > > > the only thing i want on a machine is: > > * no graphical stuff at boot time, not any of it > > * no submenus in the boot-menu > > * the kernel list dispalyed for 1 second > > * no rhgb > > * no quiet > > > > why? > > > > because i want to see what me system does if i look how it > > boots up within 15 seconds and i want to face ANY possible > > warning nobody cares especially after a upgrade > > > > > > -- > > devel mailing list > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > Fedora boot process MUST look pretty! > > Dan > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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