> From: Björn Persson <bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se>
> Ryan Lerch wrote:
> > With regards to a label on the screen instructing the user how to show 

> > the hidden preboot menu (GRUB), It is clutter that is not needed. It 
> > makes boot up longer, as that screen will need to appear on the screen 

> > long enough for the user to read, at which point why not just display 
> > the preboot menu?
> 
> Yes, why not display the Grub menu?
> 
> Whether any text is displayed or not, there still needs to be a long
> enough pause that the user has time to press a key.

And if your Fedora boxes are connected through a KVM with USB like mine, 
you need 2-3 seconds just for the keyboard to become ready so that it's 
even possible to send a keystroke.  I really don't get the "let's reduce 
functionality so we can boot faster" mentality.  I'd much rather wait an 
extra few seconds than spend all the time required to adjust configs, risk 
borking the boot loader's config, rebooting, etc. just so that I can do 
what I wanted to the first time 'round!

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John Florian

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