Hey Dan, In all the given distributions in your post, is there one that you prefer more than the others?
Richard On Dec 8, 2012 1:25 PM, "Dan Mashal" <dan.mas...@gmail.com> wrote: > Kevin, > > This is great and is exactly what I was talking about. > > Michael, > > For the record, yes I run rawhide. > > I have Fedora 14,16,17,18 and 19 running here. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Fenzi > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:18 AM > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: [rawhide] (was Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)) > > On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:31:54 +0100 > Michael Scherer <m...@zarb.org> wrote: > > ...snip... > > > in fact speaking of more testing in rawhide, do you run rawhide ? > > If not, maybe that's something that is part of the problem, and the > > first step to a solution. IE, someone should volunteer, and get enough > > feedback on why people in the fedora community do not run rawhide. > > Once the problems are identified ( even roughly ), then the next step > > to correct them could be found. > > > > If the issue "people tell me to not do it", then we should change the > > message. If the issue is "I did it but this $class_of_bug made me lose > > months of work", then we should find a way to prevent $class_of_bug, > > and make it know. And so on. > > > > But just saying "more tests should be done on rawhide" doesn't make > > them happen. You cannot force people to run rawhide. > > ...snip... > > Just to highlight this... I intend to switch my laptop to rawhide and run > it > and try and gather a like minded group of people to fix things as they > break > faster and work on making rawhide more day to day consumable. I'll likely > do > this switch over the holidays. > > I'd like to continue to use this list for this effort (with the idea that > increasing signal here would be welcome). > > Some random ideas: > > Create a 'serious rawhide regression tracking bug'. Anyone can nominate > bugs > to get added to that and we have a pool of people watching it who can fix > or > nag maintainers to fix such issues as a higher priority. We would need to > come up with some critera for acceptance there. > > Help improve autoqa efforts around rawhide and see if we can prevent broken > packages from even promoting into the collection. > > Note directly rawhide related discussion on this list with a [rawhide] so > people can easily pick out workarounds and discussions on day to day > rawhide > bugs. > > Try to give maintainers feedback when they push something to rawhide that > doesn't work at all, and help untag builds identified that do this before > they go out in the next compose. > > Other ideas welcome. > > kevin > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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