----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruno Wolff III" <br...@wolff.to>
> To: "Kevin Fenzi" <ke...@scrye.com>
> Cc: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 7:37:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally    
> trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18:
> how to install into a LVM     partitions (or RAID)))
> 
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 11:11:18 -0600,
>    Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:
> >
> >In any case, I think we do need to look at release cycle changes or
> >at
> >the very least Feature process revamp.
> 
> And get comments from other than developers. Marketting might have
> serious
> concerns about the loss of exposure not having releases would result
> in.

This is a very valid argument. I understand this is a devel list, so we should 
stay on the technical level, but if we discuss such broad changes that affect 
the whole project, we should also take into account other aspects.

Switching to rolling release would have a *huge* negative impact on marketing! 
It's releases what makes the fuzz and their announcements get beyond our 
current user base. We would have no release parties, no codenames. We would 
lose the product. I wonder what impact it would have on Fedora adoption by 
cloud providers. I think it's much more understandable not only for them, but 
also for their customers to take Fedora 17 than some monthly build.

I personally don't like the whole idea of switching to rolling release. 
Although I see some pros, I see a lot of cons that would outweight the pros. 
I've come across a few rolling release distributions (Debian Testing, Arch 
Linux, Gentoo,...) and I don't think they work if you want to achieve some 
level of stability and predictability. I rather see some changes in Rawhide so 
that it becomes a usable distribution that people more interested in bleeding 
edge can use. Because now Rawhide does not even serve testing purposes because 
almost no one is using it. It'd like to see its stability on the level where 
Fedora branched is now (it's not a smooth experience, you should expect 
problems, use skip-broken from time to time, but it's usable).

Jiri  
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