So, ...

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
>> Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> Grubby does not work fine with GRUB 2, it creates sloppy menu lists that
>>> eventually break the advanced menu entries, as well as totally departing
>>> from any user customization of /etc/default/grub.
>>
>> … vs. grub2-mkconfig, which totally departs from any user customization in
>> grub.cfg.
>
> It does not totally depart. It is merely (highly) not recommended to directly 
> edit that file. There is indirect customization, which actually in many ways 
> exceeds that of Grub Legacy. But this is an old argument, that ship has 
> sailed.
>
>>
>> You gain flexibility in one place and lose it in another. I'm not convinced
>> it's an improvement. Though on the other hand, running grub2-mkconfig is how
>> upstream intends things to work.
>
> I've already been on this hill pulling my hair out over GRUB2's complexity 
> and lack of well written documentation. However, I feel like I've passed this 
> particularly large stone, the pain has subsided, and except during 
> pre-release grub-mkconfig hasn't failed to produce a correct grub.cfg and 
> bootable system. Not even once.

So, with grub-mkconfig, I can expect to be able to chain safely to
Debian from a Fedora-installed grub2 in the MBR?

Not have mk-config find Debian's kernel and initrd, etc., like
Debian's update-grub, but actually chainm, so that Debian can keep
track of its latest kernel and Fedora can keep track of its latest
kernel and I don't have to deliberately boot and update in both to
make sure the the boot process calls the latest kernel no matter which
I boot which from?

(Not to mention that grub2 doesn't find my 3rd drive for boot purposes.)

> So. While grubby may do other things, even for GRUB2 dependent systems, the 
> part where it comes up with the new entry should, in my view, just call 
> grub-mkconfig to cause a new grub.cfg to be created. If grub-mkconfig isn't 
> working reliably for some reason, it's a bug that needs to be fixed anyway.
>
>
> Chris Murphy
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