On Sat, 16 Jun 2012, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> wrote:


On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:

Why do we need to bring Microsoft into this, much less listen to, or 
communicate with them? Forget about them.

Ahh, the Ostrich Maneuver.

Had this been the policy of others working on this issue, Microsoft would not 
have updated their Windows 8 certification to require the user be able to 
disable Secure Boot. And then we'd all be in a significantly worse position. So 
congratulations on locating a really hideously bad idea, one that actually 
supports the original Microsoft position.


Our "fight" may be with them, but if we let them continue on their merry way, 
they will most certainly fail.

Fortunately people making informed decisions aren't so passive aggressive. 
Waiting for shit to hit the fan, and then using sprayed feces over everyone as 
justification for more shit flinging is about as stupid an idea as I've read in 
this thread. Yeah, great idea. Let's get pissy, but do nothing, wait for a net 
worse policy to develop that affects everyone, and then do nothing but get 
pissed off, bitch, and whine about it.


What we need to do is let the broader public know that there are better options 
available

Please provide an example of a better option, with sufficient detail as to 
constitute a successful relay of the baton.

The point of the thread from the outset was to explore alternatives, but so far 
those alternatives are vaporware.

Chris Murphy

I have made several suggestions.

If you want, read them and tell me what you think.

Thank you!

oo--JS.
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