On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno <gr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 06/01/2012 03:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>
>>> That would be much easier accomplished by having the OS reside on a 
>>> read-only device that could only be written to by
>>> the user actively using hardware to enable the write during installation.
>> Except this hardware does not exist, and it only took about a decade to get 
>> 512e AF drives from concept to ship. Ergo not only not easier, not possible 
>> (practically anyway as people want to use SSDs and HDDs).
>>
>> And also except that your premise that all users, by default, have the 
>> competency to determine what software is to be trusted, and push a button on 
>> hardware typically located inside of an enclosure, is flawed. You're 
>> basically requiring a.) all users with laptops have the ability to 
>> physically open their laptops to push this button; or b.) a laptop case 
>> design that exposes this button, as if that isn't fraught with all sorts of 
>> potential problems.
>>
>>> Forensic firms have been using these types of read-write controllable drive 
>>> interfaces for years.  Hardware already exists.
>> And the commonality in environment, workflow, and user competency between 
>> forensic firms and Fedora users is maybe 5%? I mean, if we're going to just 
>> throw spaghetti at a wall, I get to make wild guesses too.
>>
>> It appears not even remotely practical, let alone in a ~6-12 month time 
>> frame. And there's zero incentive for drive manufacturers to do this and 
>> pass the cost onto all of their consumers.
>>
>>
>> Chris Murphy
>
>
> Drive manufacturers need to do nothing.
>
> One drive probably SSD at this point, gets dedicated to OS.  Other drive to 
> everything else.
>
> The read-write controllable interfaces already exist as I pointed out and are 
> in use by forensic firms.

And how many consumer OEMs ship them?

-J

> There are plenty of buttons/keys on machines right now that can be used to 
> toggle this interface.
>
> It's 100% doable today with existing hardware.
>
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