On Tue, 23.08.11 13:54, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote:

> 
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:37, Bill Nottingham <nott...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) said:
> >> On 08/22/2011 01:29 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >> > I'm pretty sure that we kicked this up to FESCo and they decided to treat
> >> > them the same (although the latter may not have come to a formal vote and
> >> > only been discussed during their IRC meetings on the overall subject.) 
> >> > Going
> >> > back to the quote in this message, though, that was a result of 
> >> > discussions
> >> > with Lennart rather than FESCo.
> >>
> >> Sure. I just want FESCo to either decide that socket-activated services
> >> == the same as default enabled services, or that there is some sort of
> >> separate whitelisting for socket-activated services.
> >
> > Thinking about this some more, I don't see why there should be a huge
> > distinction here.
> >
> > A socket-activated service is much the same as a non-socket-activated
> > service, in that installing the unit won't activate the service unless
> > something calls for it, or the admin/rpm scripts run 'systemctl enable'. So
> 
> A couple of questions:
> 
> 1) Does the above mean that every netscan will start up various
> services on systems?

The focus of systemd's socket activation is primarily AF_UNIX, not so
much AF_INET. And besides CUPS and sshd there are probably not too many
services where lazy-loading services really makes sense. You want to
lazy-load only those service which are really seldom used (i.e. 1/h or
less or so). Also note that CUPS does not listen on AF_INET by default,
only AF_UNIX.

Also, cups is using Accept=no which means it would be started exactly
once and then stay around.

Lennart

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