On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:46 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 02/28/2011 08:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote: > >> > >>>> Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be "all or nothing", > >>>> that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel > >>>> features alive. > >>> > >>> Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for > >>> devices without proper 3D acceleration (either because the driver > >>> sucks, the hardware is too old or because it is a VM). > >> > >> ... and to make it easier for people, who don't like the new GNOME, > >> to switch to something more "familiar"? Just to not lose them to a > >> different DE? > > > > No. That's not an intended purpose of the fallback mode. The GNOME team > > expressly does not want to maintain a 'classic' interface alongside the > > new interface for refuseniks, in much the same way as the KDE team did > > not want to burden themselves with maintaining KDE 3 alongside KDE 4. As > > drago01 said, the fallback mode is intended _only_ to cope with cases > > where the Shell actually cannot run. > > It's one thing to refuse to maintain another interface just because old > grumpies (and yes I'll freely admit myself being one) don't like change, > but in this case they have to maintain it anyway because gnome-shell is > fundamentally tied to something (3d acceleration) that by its very > nature is not going to be available in number of situations. And as an > consquence, the user now gets (and is supposed to learn) a completely > different environment depending on how and where he/she logs in: think > of multiple computers (some gnome-shell capable, some not) with shared > home directory, remote logins etc.
The fallback mode is supposed to "mimick" the gnome-shell behaviour, within its limited abilities. You won't be able to move the applets, or fiddle around with it. Think of it as a cut-down version of the shell. If you see things that don't match, feel free to file bugs against gnome-panel, and they should hopefully get routed to the right component. Cheers -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel