Hi Michal,

On 2-Jun-25 15:28, Michal Schorm wrote:
> I maintain a fleet of very old 64-bit laptops in various conditions
> for events for youth.
> I use a set of custom installation and configuration scripts to
> install Fedora + Cinnamon DE.
> 
> When debugging an issue on two machines, I discovered that using
> 'acpi=off' as a kernel parameter breaks every BIOS installation I
> have, and some UEFI too.
> 
> Some UEFI installations just have low resolution, or respond noticeably 
> slower.
> Some UEFI and some BIOS installations freeze somewhere during the boot
> sequence. (haven“t  examined more closely)
> 
> And most of the BIOS installations boot, but fail to display the GUI.
> The TTY1 ends in some non-interactive state, but not frozen (still can
> display incoming systemd journal messages etc.). I can switch to other
> TTYs, where there is a TUI login prompt and the system is normally
> accessible from there.
> 
> I carefully examined the kernel messages and systemd journal, both
> with extra verbosity levels.
> Nothing seems wrong there. The multi-user.target was reached, all
> services are fine, none related errors or unusual warnings, all
> necessary packages seem to be installed, ...
> 
> My first question is whether it is expected that 'acpi=off' will
> prevent the BIOS installations from displaying GUI. Or if any of you
> can reproduce at all.
> 
> My second question is how to further debug and where to look.
> Most of the BIOS systems work completely normal when 'acpi=off' is NOT
> specified.
> I fixed one machine by setting 'acpi=on' (which leads to a different
> result than not specifying the acpi kernel option value at all) and I
> have one machine that shows the exact same symptom, but the cause
> doesn't seem to be 'acpi=...' related, as any possible value won't
> help.

I'm not sure why you are specifying apci=off in the first place?

Most modern (even old modern) systems all need ACPI for various reasons.

Generally speaking passing any extra kernel commandline options other
then the default "root=... ro rhgb quiet" is a bad idea unless you have
a very specific reason for doing this; or were asked to try a kernel
cmdline option by a kernel-developer while debugging some option.

As for acpi=on helping, "on" is not a valid value for acpi="val",
so that likely is some false positive related to no longer specifying
acpi=off.

TL;DR: do not use acpi=off, actually do not use any special kernel
commandline arguments at all.

Regards,

Hans

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