On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 4:06 AM Vít Ondruch <vondr...@redhat.com> wrote:
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> Thx for elaborating about the discussed topics 👍

Indeed!  This is much appreciated.

josh

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> Vít
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> Dne 01. 04. 25 v 21:31 Fabio Valentini napsal(a):
> > =====================================
> > # #meeting:fedoraproject.org: fesco
> > =====================================
> >
> > Meeting started by @decathorpe:fedora.im at 2025-04-01 17:01:10
> >
> > Summaries for individual topics provided by decathorpeLLM. 😉
> >
> > Meeting summary
> > ---------------
> > * TOPIC: Roll Call (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 17:01:42)
> >      * LINK: 
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/PUJKSYSMP5QZ4L4LRYJZ3CJIYMUSJRYQ/
> > (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 17:05:56)
> >
> > * TOPIC: #3364 F42 Incomplete Changes Report (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 
> > 17:06:28)
> >      * LINK: 
> > https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-key-tasks.html
> > (@salimma:fedora.im, 17:17:43)
> >      * AGREED: The Idris 2 Change Proposal is re-targeted at Fedora 43,
> > but the package can still land in Fedora 42 as a normal "newpackage"
> > update at any time. (+7, 1, -0) (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 17:33:38)
> >      * INFO: All other previously-incomplete Changes for Fedora 42 are
> > either complete, testable, or in-progress. (@decathorpe:fedora.im,
> > 17:34:03)
> >
> > We concluded that all F42 Changes previously listed as "incomplete"
> > are now either complete, testable, or sufficiently in-progress, with
> > the exception of the Self-Contained Change Proposal for providing a
> > package for Idris 2. The package Review Request for idris2 is in
> > progress, but with the Final Freeze having gone into effect today,
> > landing this package in time for the Fedora 42 release is unlikely. As
> > such, we have decided to re-target the Change Proposal to Fedora 43
> > (mostly for the purpose of setting expectations, and proper
> > documentation in release notes - because this package will likely not
> > be ready on "day one" - or even "day minus one" for reviewers of
> > Fedora 42).
> >
> > * TOPIC: Change: Fix limitations in gpgverify (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 
> > 17:36:39)
> >      * AGREED: Change is approved with the modification that gpgverify
> > will become a separate package. (+6, 1, -0) (@decathorpe:fedora.im,
> > 17:58:07)
> >      * INFO: The Change Proposal document will be updated accordingly.
> > (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 17:58:26)
> >
> > We discussed this Change Proposal with the Change Owner, who was
> > present during the meeting. Since a number of FESCo members (and
> > redhat-rpm-config package maintainers) would prefer this Change to be
> > implemented in a standalone package instead of adding it to
> > redhat-rpm-macros directly, the Proposal will be adapted and discussed
> > again when ready.
> >
> > * TOPIC: Change: Disabling Support of building OpenSSL engines
> > (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 17:59:44)
> >      * AGREED: FESCo rejects this Change Proposal, and requests that
> > OpenSSL Engine functionality is not dropped earlier than the OpenSSL
> > (pre-)release where this functionality is dropped upstream. (+8, 0,
> > -0) (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 18:09:13)
> >
> > This proposal had already collected six -1 votes during in-ticket
> > voting for various reasons. We agreed that the proposed change was
> > premature, with no release date for an OpenSSL version that drops this
> > functionality upstream on the horizon. Additionally, breaking builds
> > of packages while keeping them installable and working causes pain for
> > affected package maintainers, and also prevents shipping *any* package
> > updates for affected packages despite them still being included and
> > installable from Fedora repositories.
> >
> > * TOPIC: Change: Java25 and No More System JDK (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 
> > 18:11:36)
> >      * AGREED: The "Java25 and No More System JDK" Change Proposal will
> > be discussed at next week's FESCo meeting (April 8, 2025). The
> > Proposal Owners are invited to join. (+7, 0, -0)
> > (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 18:17:30)
> >
> > Since many FESCo members had not yet kept up with the discussion of
> > this Change Proposal, we decided to postpone discussing it to next
> > week, and invited the Change Owner to join.
> >
> > * TOPIC: Pending changes for FESCo docs (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 18:18:30)
> >
> > It is currently not explicitly clear whether fesco-docs tickets and
> > pull-requests should (or should not) be processed the same way as
> > "regular" fesco tickets, which often leads to them being overlooked
> > for longer periods of time. Since documentation is important, it would
> > be good to improve our process around fesco documentation. A follow-up
> > ticket was filed here: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3387
> >
> > * TOPIC: Next Week's 🪑 (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 18:23:43)
> >      * ACTION: Fale to chair next week's FESCo meeting on April 8, 2025
> > (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 18:24:59)
> >
> > * TOPIC: Open Floor (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 18:25:11)
> >
> > Meeting ended at 2025-04-01 18:30:13
> >
> > Action items
> > ------------
> > * Fale to chair next week's FESCo meeting on April 8, 2025
> >
> > People Present (lines said)
> > ---------------------------
> > * @decathorpe:fedora.im (120)
> > * @zbyszek:fedora.im (48)
> > * @conan_kudo:matrix.org (40)
> > * @sgallagh:fedora.im (38)
> > * @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (31)
> > * @zodbot:fedora.im (25)
> > * @salimma:fedora.im (18)
> > * @fale:fale.io (11)
> > * @humaton:fedora.im (5)
> > * @rombobeorn:fedora.im (5)
> > * @emma:rory.gay (3)
> > * @meetbot:fedora.im (3)
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