> Am 13.02.2025 um 10:25 schrieb Jiri Vanek <jva...@redhat.com>:
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/12/25 10:06 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> Mario Torre wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 2:11 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
>>> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mario Torre wrote:
>>>>> OpenJDK 11 is EOL in Fedora regardless of the Fedora version, it hasn’t
>>>>> been updated in January for example.
>>>> 
>>>> This is entirely unacceptable. The package shipped with Fedora 41, so it
>>>> MUST get security backports until the Fedora 41 EOL. If the maintainers
>>>> do not want to take care of that, they should orphan the package and let
>>>> somebody else push the required security updates.
>>> 
>>> I am afraid not.
>>> 
>>> If you want an updated package, you should be using the latest
>>> versions, anything else is a best effort and there's no guarantee it
>>> will be updated going forward.
>> Nonsense. OpenJDK 11 is an LTS version that is still getting security
> 
> I Agree with Kevin, and I keep it updated, as long as I'm alive. As noted 
> elsewhere in this thread, I'm negotiating with jdk11 possible future  
> maintainers they step in as help.

If my brain's built-in translator is working correctly, does this mean you're 
withdrawing your announcement and deprecation? I'd very very much welcome that! 

In my ‚main  side job', I work in the Fedora Server WG. And Java is an 
extremely important part of the software portfolio for servers. And because of 
its very extensive backwards compatibility – an important trademark and 
difference to other popular languages –  Java 11 is basically not dispensable 
either. And Temurin is not a solution for us because the Fedora guidelines only 
allow us to install Fedora-built packages. Of course I also see the workload 
and didn't want to (kind of) demand it before.


> 
>> updates upstream and, e.g., in Adoptium Temurin (to which the console spam
>> from the Fedora RPM was actually pointing). It just takes updating the
> 
> Spam? Is that really so bad? What else would you suggest?

I appreciate the message (well, not the message, but the placement). It is, or 
would be, a very serious infringement of the Fedora Java runtime environment. 
This cannot be announced early enough and as widely as possible. And because 
servers are mainly administered via terminal, a large proportion of users get 
aware of it.  


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