On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 11:59 AM Romain GEISSLER via devel
<devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> > Le 8 déc. 2024 à 18:27, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski 
> > <domi...@greysector.net> a écrit :
> >
> > Hello, Romain.
> >
> > Welcome to Fedora! Thanks for your contributions so far. We're looking
> > forward to many more in the future.
>
> Thanks !
>
> > Are there any particular packages you are interested in?
>
> I have started our RHEL 9 to 10 migration last month, and the top level 
> packages in EPEL 10 we missed were these ones:
>  - fedpkg (since we have our own internal proprietary package we need to 
> build as well)
>  - pylint & gcovr (related to our big usage of C/C++)
>  - mstmp
>  - parallel
>  - python3-flask
>  - python3-pika
>  - python3-pygraphviz
>  - python3-kafka
>
> (we had other missing packages which have already been created by their 
> respective owners already). However these top level package are usually well 
> maintained and already have enough bandwidth to work on it on Fedora side, 
> for me my added value would be more on the different missing dependent 
> packages, with less people involved.
>
> With more details, In order to build a beta version of our big container 
> image containing the most common build tools we need, and used by hundreds of 
> teams/thousands of developers daily, I have been able to use (dirty) 
> workarounds for now while waiting for more official builds. Sometimes I 
> shamelessly stole the fedora 40 rpm package, other times I had built the rpm 
> for RHEL 9 locally and pushed it in our own private rpm repositories. Here is 
> the full list of "workaround" package we use at this moment:
>
> awscli2-2.17.6-1.fc40.noarch.rpm                                     
> 11-Nov-2024 14:26  12.77 MB
> bodhi-client-8.2.0-1.fc40.noarch.rpm                                 
> 30-Nov-2024 06:38  89.01 KB
> fedpkg-1.45-5.fc40.noarch.rpm                                        
> 11-Nov-2024 14:26  115.10 KB
> gcovr-7.2-1.fc40.noarch.rpm                                          
> 11-Nov-2024 14:16  353.69 KB
> koji-1.35.1-2.fc40.noarch.rpm                                        
> 30-Nov-2024 06:38  263.67 KB
> libgsasl-1.10.0-8.fc40.aarch64.rpm                                   
> 11-Nov-2024 14:01  159.78 KB
> libgsasl-1.10.0-8.fc40.x86_64.rpm                                    
> 11-Nov-2024 14:02  158.37 KB
> libntlm-1.6-9.fc40.aarch64.rpm                                       
> 11-Nov-2024 14:04  91.50 KB
> libntlm-1.6-9.fc40.x86_64.rpm                                        
> 11-Nov-2024 14:04  91.40 KB
> msmtp-1.8.25-3.fc40.aarch64.rpm                                      
> 11-Nov-2024 13:51  215.70 KB
> msmtp-1.8.25-3.fc40.x86_64.rpm                                       
> 11-Nov-2024 13:50  216.38 KB
> parallel-20240922-2.fc40.noarch.rpm                                  
> 11-Nov-2024 13:50  433.97 KB
> pylint-3.3.2-1.el10.noarch.rpm                                       
> 04-Dec-2024 00:57  30.68 KB
> python3-bcrypt-4.0.1-9.fc40.aarch64.rpm                              
> 11-Nov-2024 14:26  220.87 KB
> python3-bcrypt-4.0.1-9.fc40.x86_64.rpm                               
> 11-Nov-2024 14:26  231.37 KB
> python3-blinker-1.9.0-1.el10.noarch.rpm                              
> 05-Dec-2024 15:02  26.69 KB
> python3-cccolutils-1.5-27.fc40.aarch64.rpm                           
> 11-Nov-2024 15:26  20.85 KB
> python3-cccolutils-1.5-27.fc40.x86_64.rpm                            
> 11-Nov-2024 15:26  20.62 KB
> python3-dotenv+cli-1.0.1-4.el10.noarch.rpm                           
> 05-Dec-2024 15:14  9.18 KB
> python3-dotenv-1.0.1-4.el10.noarch.rpm                               
> 05-Dec-2024 15:14  45.98 KB
> python3-flask+async-3.1.0-2.el10.noarch.rpm                          
> 05-Dec-2024 15:18  9.31 KB
> python3-flask-3.1.0-2.el10.noarch.rpm                                
> 05-Dec-2024 15:18  196.76 KB
> python3-kafka-2.0.2-14.fc40.noarch.rpm                               
> 02-Dec-2024 19:02  548.21 KB
> python3-koji-1.35.1-2.fc40.noarch.rpm                                
> 30-Nov-2024 06:39  425.26 KB
> python3-mccabe-0.7.0-12.el10.noarch.rpm                              
> 04-Dec-2024 00:37  22.38 KB
> python3-openidc-client-0.6.0-22.20220119git0e2ed81.fc40.noarch.rpm   
> 11-Nov-2024 15:17  27.07 KB
> python3-paramiko-3.5.0-1.fc40.noarch.rpm                             
> 11-Nov-2024 13:50  402.70 KB
> python3-pika-1.3.2-1.fc40.noarch.rpm                                 
> 11-Nov-2024 13:50  318.05 KB
> python3-pybeam-0.8-2.fc40.noarch.rpm                                 
> 11-Nov-2024 15:40  30.75 KB
> python3-pycurl-7.45.2-10.fc40.aarch64.rpm                            
> 11-Nov-2024 15:26  150.69 KB
> python3-pycurl-7.45.2-10.fc40.x86_64.rpm                             
> 11-Nov-2024 15:26  150.12 KB
> python3-pygraphviz-1.11-7.fc40.aarch64.rpm                           
> 11-Nov-2024 14:16  155.86 KB
> python3-pygraphviz-1.11-7.fc40.x86_64.rpm                            
> 11-Nov-2024 14:17  154.76 KB
> python3-pylint-3.3.2-1.el10.noarch.rpm                               
> 04-Dec-2024 00:57  971.46 KB
> python3-pytest-cov-4.0.0-10.fc40.noarch.rpm                          
> 11-Nov-2024 13:50  54.01 KB
> python3-rpkg-1.67-4.fc40.noarch.rpm                                  
> 11-Nov-2024 15:08  237.54 KB
> python3-sh-2.0.6-6.el10.noarch.rpm                                   
> 05-Dec-2024 15:09  90.93 KB
> python3-twisted-23.10.0-4.fc40.noarch.rpm                            
> 11-Nov-2024 13:50  6.69 MB
> rpkg-common-1.67-4.fc40.noarch.rpm                                   
> 11-Nov-2024 15:28  19.33 KB
>
> My goal is that for each of these workaround, to find a solution upstream to 
> have a real EPEL 10 package. Normally I already did open the bugzillas for 
> all these, and try to follow up when one dependency is made available. For 
> some of these packages who seem to have busy maintainers, once I will feel a 
> bit more confortable with the maintainer role and what it implies, I will 
> eventually propose to be a co-maintainer, at least for the EPEL branches. For 
> now I will ask Carl Georges if he accepts to mentor me on couple of the 
> packages he maintains himself, so that I learn with someone experimented how 
> all this works (it’s still quite new to me).
>
> Cheers,
> Romain
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Howdy Romain,

It's neat to hear how your company is using UBI, RHEL, and EPEL.  I
love your attitude of lobbying your employer to contribute back to
Open Source.

I'd be happy to be your mentor and package sponsor.  I'll follow up
with you off list on the next steps in that process.

-- 
Carl George

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