Another option is to allow the x11-compatible packages but as a clearly forked desktop with a clearly different name
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, 12:10 Steve Cossette, <farch...@gmail.com> wrote: > So, if you all don't mind, I'd like to steer this discussion in a slightly > different way: > > What *is* the definition of a Fedora Change Proposal? > > I was under the impression it was an announcement of intent by the > maintainers of a specific subset of the fedora project to "change" > something. Once said announcement has been discussed publicly, Fesco (Sorry > if the capitals are incorrect) discusses it internally (albeit, publicly) > and either blocks or approves the change, making it official. > > *(Please note: The following paragraphs will use "we" as a pronoun which > is intended to be the Fedora project as a whole)* > > Once approved, we announced our intent to drop X11 from the KDE spin of > Fedora. That announcement has gained traction everywhere, got publicized > and everything. As Neal Gompa also stated, it has already caused some > substantial development effort upstream to effectively iron out the rough > edges of many of the problems, with what I assume is more to come. > > My fear is that, while those x11 libraries/runtimes/... *would* indeed no > longer be maintained by the KDE sig, we would basically just be partially > rolling back that initial proposal. And the quality of said packages would > also maybe suffer from them being updated separately, which might also > reflect poorly on us (*again, in this context, "us" = the Fedora Project)* > . > > It would also introduce a precedent: What if later a proposal is made to > remove some old drivers from, let's say, the kernel, and someone decides to > package it, undermining the general efforts of that proposal? > > Hopefully I'm making sense. Writing this 30mins after waking up might not > have helped. What I'm trying to say basically is, I get that for some > legacy nvidia users the Wayland experience may not be optimal. But will it > *ever* be? Does that mean we can never drop x11? Will anyone ever update > those legacy nvidia drivers? *Could they be?* > > Le mar. 30 janv. 2024, à 07 h 48, Sérgio Basto <ser...@serjux.com> a > écrit : > >> Link to the FESCo ticket: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3165 >> >> and I'm very upset >> >> -- >> Sérgio M. B. >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >
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