Gerd Hoffmann <kra...@redhat.com> writes:

>   Hi,
>
>> Does that mean that the Linux EFI boot code knows how to call back to
>> shim to get the certificates instead of reading the firmware directly?
>
> No.  The linux efi stub doesn't need that.
>
> shim.efi does:
>
>   (a) Set efi variables, where the linux kernel can read the
>       certificates from.  This works the same way for both traditional
>       kernels and UKIs.
>
>   (b) provide an efi protocol for bootloaders, which can be called by grub
>       and systemd-boot to verify the signature for binaries they load
>       (typically the linux kernel, but could also be fwupd.efi).

Note, the protocol is also used by systemd-stub (the base for UKIs) to
verify cmdline addons, see

commit 05c9f9c2517c54b98d55f08f8afa67c79be861e8
Author: Luca Boccassi <bl...@debian.org>
Date:   Fri May 12 00:55:58 2023 +0100

    stub: allow loading and verifying cmdline addons

this AFAIU means that we also need shim in the boot chain if we want to
support these addons.

-- 
Vitaly
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