On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 08:27 +1100, Arthur G wrote: > I recall a number of years back a proposed gcc upgrade broke many > builds. This required most maintainers to log in and refactor their > source code against the new gcc (and new gcc options). > > I hadn't logged into Fedora for years however I did do my due > diligence and rather quickly logged in and fixed any issues. > > The recent move to remove inactive maintainers from the maintainers > group is something I fully agree with for reasons of security against > the current limitations of the maintainer privileges framework. > > However, this latest move to orphan packages that don't have > maintainers seems rather clandestine as it's not related to security > but rather a byproduct of the point mentioned above. If security > wasn't an issue in the first place then we wouldn't be having this > discussion.
orphan list is here: https://churchyard.fedorapeople.org/orphans.txt you got the date and hour of report ( Report started at 2023-11-19 20:20:42 UTC ) so you know if is updated or not . > I wonder what spectacle will ensue should we ever need to refactor > the source code again for extraneous reasons only to find a > significant part of the maintainer cohort needs to go through the > proven maintainer process again. > > > > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 07:09, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Today, 2023-11-18, we have removed inactive packagers > > from the packager group. > > > > This is in accordance with the FESCo policy on inactive packagers: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_inactive_packagers/ > > > > If the removed user is 'main admin' for a package, this package > > will be orphaned. If there are co-maintainers for the package, > > one of them should take the role of 'main admin', > > by clicking "✋ Take" on > > `https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/<package>`". > > > > Otherwise any packager may take the package while it's orphaned. > > After 6 weeks, the package will be retired. > > After another 8 weeks, a new review is needed to unretire it. > > see > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_orphan_and_retired_packages/ > > for more details. > > > > More details available in > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11621 > > > > Packages that have been orphaned are: > > > > rpms/gtksourceview5 > > rpms/python-typing-inspect > > rpms/xorg-x11-drv-qxl > > rpms/coin-or-lemon > > rpms/fish > > rpms/nvme-cli > > rpms/u2f-hidraw-policy > > rpms/virtme > > rpms/elementary-onboarding > > rpms/vala-language-server > > rpms/perl-MooseX-Role-Matcher > > rpms/perl-Net-Google-AuthSub > > rpms/drupal7-advanced_help > > rpms/drupal7-auto_nodetitle > > rpms/drupal7-calendar > > rpms/drupal7-ckeditor > > rpms/drupal7-date_ical > > rpms/drupal7-email > > rpms/drupal7-features > > rpms/drupal7-feeds > > rpms/drupal7-flexifilter > > rpms/drupal7-footnotes > > rpms/drupal7-google_analytics > > rpms/drupal7-honeypot > > rpms/drupal7-job_scheduler > > rpms/drupal7-mediawiki_api > > rpms/drupal7-module_filter > > rpms/drupal7-panels > > rpms/drupal7-pathauto > > rpms/drupal7-rules > > rpms/drupal7-site_map > > rpms/drupal7-strongarm > > rpms/drupal7-theme-adaptivetheme > > rpms/drupal7-token > > rpms/drupal7-views_bulk_operations > > rpms/drupal7-views_slideshow > > rpms/drupal7-webform > > rpms/drupal7-workbench > > rpms/drupal7-workbench_moderation > > rpms/drupal7-xmlsitemap > > rpms/python-ironicclient > > rpms/qtractor > > rpms/rtirq > > rpms/dropbear > > rpms/byzanz > > rpms/cairo > > rpms/golang-github-elithrar-simple-scrypt > > rpms/golang-github-kurin-blazer > > rpms/golang-github-minio > > rpms/golang-github-pkg-xattr > > 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