On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:24:15PM +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> On úterý 3. října 2023 21:48:24 CEST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 10:30:45AM +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > > 
> > > Well, in what shape is our "layered image" build system?  Aren't we able
> > 
> > Terrible, and going to be decomissioned after f39 release. ;) 
> > 
> > But if you mean base images... those are fine.
> 
> I fear that doing this as additional full Fedora image would be a waste
> of space in the Fedora registry?  Or not?  We basically need the base
> image + python3-dnf-plugins-core:

Yes, it would be a lot of wasted space/duplication. ;( 

> Installing:
>  python3-dnf-plugins-core      noarch     4.4.2-1.fc39       rawhide          
>                                  293 k
> Installing dependencies:
>  dbus-libs                     x86_64     1:1.14.10-1.fc40   rawhide          
>                                  155 k
>  fonts-filesystem              noarch     1:2.0.5-12.fc39    rawhide          
>                                  8.2 k
>  js-jquery                     noarch     3.7.1-1.fc40       rawhide          
>                                  169 k
>  python3-dateutil              noarch     1:2.8.2-10.fc39    rawhide          
>                                  355 k
>  python3-dbus                  x86_64     1.3.2-4.fc39       rawhide          
>                                  157 k
>  python3-distro                noarch     1.8.0-6.fc39       rawhide          
>                                   49 k
>  python3-six                   noarch     1.16.0-12.fc39     rawhide          
>                                   41 k
>  python3-systemd               x86_64     235-5.fc39         rawhide          
>                                  107 k
>  web-assets-filesystem         noarch     5-20.fc39          rawhide          
>                                  7.9 k
> Installing weak dependencies:
>  python-systemd-doc            x86_64     235-5.fc39         rawhide          
>                                   75 k
> 
> For DNF5 images (41+), I hope we can put the dnf5-plugins
> (dnf-plugins-core alternative in c++) directly into the base image since
> it has no additional deps.

So, what do you need out of there? builddep? or?

> > > to create a new official image say 
> > > `fedora-mock-bootstrap:<FEDORA_VERSION>`
> > > that would be automatically built (ideally at least as frequently as the
> > > base image is)?  This way we could optimize fedora builds for everyone.
> > 
> > Yes, we could. Just wouldn't be a layer, it would be it's own image. 
> 
> Do we have some HOWTO document how to start?  I suppose I have to
> provide a kickstart file in fedora-kickstarts.git?  Would the image be
> built automatically/when? :-)

I'm not convinced this is worth it... especially if dnf5 will mean it
doesn't matter anymore and currently it just means people have to
download a few packages at the start of a build.

I guess I would say a f40 change and with that discussion all the
details would be worked out. Is it release blocking? Does it need to be
advertised anywhere on websites? etc...

kevin

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