Because when they ask “where is the code?”, they are asking a different
question than yours :)

Regards,
Carlos

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 2:30 PM Simo Sorce <s...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 23:13 +0200, Leon Fauster via devel wrote:
> > Am 03.10.23 um 21:29 schrieb Simo Sorce:
> > > On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 20:55 +0200, Leon Fauster via devel wrote:
> > > > Am 03.10.23 um 20:46 schrieb Sérgio Basto:
> > > > > On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 13:13 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 3 2023 at 01:19:20 PM -0400, Simo Sorce <
> s...@redhat.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Additionally *all* of the code is fully available in git form
> on
> > > > > > > gitlab
> > > > > > > as part of CentOS Stream.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We all know or should know that this is false. It's easy enough
> to
> > > > > > disprove with a counterexample:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2023:1918
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try to find the code for that
> webkit2gtk3-2.36.7-1.el9_1.3.src.rpm in
> > > > > > CentOS Stream. It isn't there, and never will be.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > it is here :
> > > > >
> https://git.centos.org/rpms/webkit2gtk3/c/2d1b790baa97d14849e56ed21d3f0145268283c2?branch=c9
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Since June 21 the strategy changed. Such commits do not get pushed
> > > > anymore. But you are right, to prove it a different example is
> necessary ...
> > >
> > > You are wrong and have been mislead.
> > > Nothing has changed in how we develop and publish code in gitlab.
> >
> >
> > Nope, I do not argue about processes at all. Its about resulting code
> > fragments. Speak, having in gitlab version 8 of a package and in the
> > current/latest RHEL release (9.2) version 7 with backports of 8 doesn't
> > mean that the code is in gitlab. The code differs and its not
> > accessible. Thats all about.
>
> The code is still in gitlab, in most cases in directly accessible in
> individual commits. In some cases, like the one Michael mentioned,
> where a rebase landed early in the CentOS branch the code may land
> together with other changes, but it is not like it is not there.
> There are is a no regression policy in RHEL, so if CentOS is ahead it
> means it already has all of the code in question.
>
> And if there is an actual reason to need to know what exact change
> landed in RHEL there are several avenues to find out (just grab a
> developer subscription for example).
>
> I just find that this is generally just a mental exercise, but not
> something people do or need to do on a regular basis, and does not
> prevent any use, study, sharing or enjoyment of the code.
>
> Claiming the code is inaccessible sounds odd to me.
> But perhaps I am just old and remember when all you got from upstream
> was a tarball and you had to figure out what actual changes went in
> manually with diff ... no commits or commit messages and often not even
> a reasonable changelog ...
>
> Simo.
>
> --
> Simo Sorce,
> DE @ RHEL Crypto Team,
> Red Hat, Inc
>
>
>
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