On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 5:54 PM Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 8:58 PM Justin W. Flory (he/him) <j...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > > The elections are now scheduled to start on Monday, 29 May and end on > Sunday, 11 June. Documentation and schedules are being updated. > > > > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 6:55 AM Josh Boyer <jwbo...@fedoraproject.org> > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:34 PM Gary Buhrmaster > >> <gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > I do understand why RedHat itself will not announce > >> > who got laid off, but the Council members should have > >> > been informed (I hope!) at the time, and should have > >> > worked on an announcement to the community, even > >> > if all they could say was "stay tuned, we are working > >> > it out". > >> > >> The Council members were not informed in advance. They found out > >> about the layoffs at the same time the public did, and also found out > >> about Ben's specific role only after he informed others he was > >> impacted. > > > > > > This isn't incorrect but I do want to clarify the timeline because it is > what I would have wanted to know as a community member and there are events > that may appear to be conflicting in the timeline (e.g. Ben's blog and my > LinkedIn recommendation for him). We did have some advance notice before > the general public. Ben mentioned the Red Hat reductions were announced in > the US on 24 April and that was when we found out. We knew Ben's last day > was 12 May. That was as much advance notice that we had. > > > > The week of 24 April was not productive. It was a shocking week for > nearly everyone. But we did start transitioning Ben's work before his final > day and his blog post, which is why you are seeing incredibly helpful > Fedorans who are stepping up right now and picking up the slack in Ben's > absence (thank you folks!). There are going to be gaps. Some things will > fall through the cracks. But we will get through this. Calling out slippage > as Fedora Council tickets is likely the most effective way for (1) problems > to be identified and noticed, and (2) for Fedora leadership to take steps > at resolving those problems. > > And, while I can understand that the days > after April 24th may not have been comfortable, > and taking advantage of access to Ben while > he was still available was a good thing, I do > believe some member of the Council should > have started working on the note to the > Community to be sent on (or about) May 15th > with something of the form that RH's staff > redundancies have resulted in the elimination > of the position of Fedora Program Manager, > and the Council is working through how the > existing roles and responsibilities of the Council > will be revised (downwards?), and redistributed > given the reduction of staffing, and if anyone > sees something getting dropped, create a ticket > (properly wordsmithed by someone with actual > skills in writing words, of course). > > I think we all appreciate that everyone is > stepping up and trying their best. Thank you! > > But I will continue to believe that we(*) should > not have had to find out about the changes > when the elections did not happen, which was > the point of my request that this be taken as > a learning opportunity about better > communications for the next time (which > may have nothing to do with future > redundancies, as people can leave, or have > life emergencies, and those can impact > ongoing activities). > > Thank you for your consideration. > > > > (*) I was aware of it personally because > it was posted elsewhere, but clearly a lot > of people seemed to have been surprised. > I do not believe that should happen. > > I agree that it should not have happened this way. -- *jwf* (*he/him*) || 📧 j...@redhat.com TZ=America/New_York (UTC-4) 🕗 While I may be sending this email outside my normal office hours, I have no expectation to receive a reply outside yours.
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