On 1/9/23 12:27, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
Am Montag, 9. Jänner 2023 21:02:48 CET schrieb Tom Stellard:
I think a good solution would be to move the proposal submission deadlines
a month earlier in the schedule.  There's only 3 weeks between the
"Changes Requiring Mass Rebuild" deadline and the mass rebuild.  I don't think 
3 weeks is really enough time for FESCO review/approval and
also getting the necessary patches reviewed and committed.

How would this have helped in this case? The original change proposal was 
actually submitted more than 6 months ago! It is just that it took 5 months to 
finally get to a vote (with whose outcome one FESCo member was then unhappy).


It wouldn't have helped in this case, but if we are discussing
changing the schedule to avoid holiday conflicts, then I think
moving the "Change Proposal Deadlines" earlier would
be better than shifting the whole schedule a few weeks.

The resubmission, on the other hand, happened one day AFTER the submission 
deadline for changes requiring a mass rebuild and hence was already late under 
the current process. Pushing the submission deadline earlier would not have 
changed that.

If we need a rule, then it needs to be that rejected changes cannot be 
resubmitted for reconsideration after the change submission deadline. Though 
FESCo could just vote to accept the late change anyway, so it would not really 
help if the resubmission comes from FESCo itself and if FESCo really wants it 
to happen. At most it could discourage such late reconsiderations.


Yes, I agree with this and I actually just proposed this up-thread.

-Tom

        Kevin Kofler
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