On Fri, Dec 9, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Timothée Ravier wrote:

> Using layering will also conflict / not interact well with the move to 
> container based ostree image in F38: 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable

(I'm only kind of following this thread and I agree we should not enable 
layering by default)

But a note: from the rpm-ostree perspective, we intend to still fully support 
client side layering.  Obviously this change suddenly makes it very 
straightforward to do derivative server-side layering/builds, and there's been 
a lot of excitement around that.  I do expect most even semi-technical users to 
do this.  But it's not clear to me that we should say that's the *only* path 
and at a technical level today a lot of work went into keeping that 
functionality.  For example, today for OpenShift for example we client side 
package layer kernel-rt and a few other things.  I obviously want us to move to 
always building an image, but it needs some work.

There's also valid use cases around things like "I want to ssh to this one 
machine and install kernel-debug".



 
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