On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 11:40 AM Aurelien Bompard <
abomp...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hey folks!
>
> After spending some time evaluating our options, CPE's Advance
> Reconnaissance Team came up with this proposal for the next version of FMN:
>
> https://fedora-arc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fmn/april2022/index.html
>
> Please check it out if you're interested, it has an analysis of the
> existing system and requirements for the next.
> And the best time for feedback is now, before the work actually starts :-)
>

One of the current issues that I don't see listed is that people receive
notifications with empty or incomplete descriptions, and often it's not
even possible why (which filter caused it and how to prevent it). For
example:

~~~~
from: notificati...@fedoraproject.org
to: kpa...@redhat.com
subject: fedmsg notification  # see that even the subject is generic
content:
Notification time stamped 2022-05-14 01:48:35 UTC
        https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-af58cd6f88
~~~~
It doesn't say why I received the notification, what happened to that bodhi
update, nothing. Of course in FMN settings I enabled:
"We can annotate your messages with a "triggered by" link that will let you
know which filter was responsible for triggering each message."
but it doesn't work.

Here's another example:
~~~~
from: notificati...@fedoraproject.org
to: kpa...@redhat.com
subject: Fedora Notifications Digest (3 updates)
content:
Digest Summary:
1.
2.
3.      Fedora EPEL 9 Update: testcloud-0.7.1-1.el9
~~~~
Very useful.

This one is my favorite:
~~~~
from: notificati...@fedoraproject.org
to: kpa...@redhat.com
subject: fedmsg notification
content:
Notification time stamped 2021-12-14 08:34:53 UTC

{
    "certificate":
"LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBDRVJUSUZJQ0FURS0tLS0tCk1JSUUyakNDQkVPZ0F3SUJBZ0lDQXBzd0RRWUpL\nb1pJaHZjTkFRRUxCUUF3Z2FBeEN6QUpCZ05WQkFZVEFsVlQKTVFzd0NRWURWUVFJRXdKT1F6RVFN\nQTRHQTFVRUJ4TUhVbUZzWldsbmFERVhNQlVHQTFVRUNoTU9SbVZrYjNKaApJRkJ5YjJwbFkzUXhE\nekFOQmdOVkJBc1RCbVpsWkcxelp6RVBNQTBHQTFVRUF4TUdabVZrYlhObk1ROHdEUVlEClZRUXBF\nd1ptWldSdGMyY3hKakFrQmdrcWhraUc5dzBCQ1FFV0YyRmtiV2x1UUdabFpHOXlZWEJ5YjJwbFkz\nUXUKYjNKbk1CNFhEVEU0TURreU5qSXpNalV3T0ZvWERUSTRNRGt5TXpJek1qVXdPRm93Z2VReEN6\nQUpCZ05WQkFZVApBbFZUTVFzd0NRWURWUVFJRXdKT1F6RVFNQTRHQTFVRUJ4TUhVbUZzWldsbmFE\nRVhNQlVHQTFVRUNoTU9SbVZrCmIzSmhJRkJ5YjJwbFkzUXhEekFOQmdOVkJBc1RCbVpsWkcxelp6\nRXhNQzhHQTFVRUF4TW9abVZrYlhObkxXMXAKWjNKaGRHbHZiaTEwYjI5c2N5NW1aV1J2Y21Gd2Nt\nOXFaV04wTG05eVp6RXhNQzhHQTFVRUtSTW9abVZrYlhObgpMVzFwWjNKaGRHbHZiaTEwYjI5c2N5\nNW1aV1J2Y21Gd2NtOXFaV04wTG05eVp6RW1NQ1FHQ1NxR1NJYjNEUUVKCkFSWVhZV1J0YVc1QVpt\nVmtiM0poY0hKdmFtVmpkQzV2Y21jd2dnRWlNQTBHQ1NxR1NJYjNEUUVCQVFVQUE0SUIKRHdBd2dn\nRUtBb0lCQVFEUm4xd1E1UVZwN2JCdUpFUjlNOUkwZ2o0WHB0NTlFZDdnU1p2RVQvcSsrUVNFb0x2\nWApkb0tnOTdkWXhZK2FPdll1TDAzc1lOdjZEcmJLZVM2blk5V1dwKytoZ1hUMXBEaFY3QmRxeitt\nNFoxbDhsYjFHCi9mZHAwd1FON0RMVndDclYyTmNSajZ6b2J0NHV2Z0JYaWtVUWhRNjl5V2E2VE9D\nTis5OWEwUUtjTUJzNENuNTAKc2pmUTNGQUNsV1B3NUhkNkNPMHJWenhPODRROGc0bEpCcTRubHY0\nc0xRVmZoZTNoZWMzTEFObUt2RGNSc3JpbgpDUXFGdFF5MVNmR0pHWnE4RkEyUDhkckVCd1BqdnZx\nMTJ4MHJucEJjdVM5bXlLQmhOYVE3eSs5bE9GTXJSZFBrCmRaUXY0eGdSU0FzZGJQRDlyeXYrTE1n\nS1YvVnVTdm11RzF0eEFnTUJBQUdqZ2dGWE1JSUJVekFKQmdOVkhSTUUKQWpBQU1DMEdDV0NHU0FH\nRytFSUJEUVFnRmg1RllYTjVMVkpUUVNCSFpXNWxjbUYwWldRZ1EyVnlkR2xtYVdOaApkR1V3SFFZ\nRFZSME9CQllFRkM0anZCbmhFSnRDTkxHaTg5UHgreU41K1VNa01JSFZCZ05WSFNNRWdjMHdnY3FB\nCkZHdEFXdmtTQ0lsWjUxbmxCZlVDSFFwT2Z4UUFvWUdtcElHak1JR2dNUXN3Q1FZRFZRUUdFd0pW\nVXpFTE1Ba0cKQTFVRUNCTUNUa014RURBT0JnTlZCQWNUQjFKaGJHVnBaMmd4RnpBVkJnTlZCQW9U\nRGtabFpHOXlZU0JRY205cQpaV04wTVE4d0RRWURWUVFMRXdabVpXUnRjMmN4RHpBTkJnTlZCQU1U\nQm1abFpHMXpaekVQTUEwR0ExVUVLUk1HClptVmtiWE5uTVNZd0pBWUpLb1pJaHZjTkFRa0JGaGRo\nWkcxcGJrQm1aV1J2Y21Gd2NtOXFaV04wTG05eVo0SUoKQU9OUUhrZFBGeDVGTUJNR0ExVWRKUVFN\nTUFvR0NDc0dBUVVGQndNQ01Bc0dBMVVkRHdRRUF3SUhnREFOQmdrcQpoa2lHOXcwQkFRc0ZBQU9C\nZ1FBQnFBcDQzd3lUbk5XUUJYODUzSEVEUEpDTTM4aVJTdlV3dzFCejd4MmFpSWpuCkVPTWZ1djhB\nTEV2Z2JXeDhSc0RBNTluRkNXS1FJRWdGeEFBcUFMUFJwYWF3dFRUcnN1VlQ3bFhlSEhrU21VblEK\ncEdKSFd1elU2OUZibFdaWkpDTVQzUTRVYWNUa0VHNE1XMFFqOWp1aFNpM2lHOHZXVXZlMTEzUTNL\nMDhmVHc9PQotLS0tLUVORCBDRVJUSUZJQ0FURS0tLS0tCg==\n",
    "crypto": "x509",
    "i": 2390172,
    "msg": {
        "bug": {
            "alias": [],
            "assigned_to": "kpa...@redhat.com",
            "cc": [],
            "cf_atomic": "",
            "cf_category": "",
<snip>
~~~~
I love receiving json dumps.

Of course these are just examples I could quickly find. I don't need to
debug them. I roughly know why I received them. But in the past, I
sometimes received a notification that I really had zero idea why I got it.
Also, I sometimes received a completely empty email, IIRC. The problem is,
I believe, that FMN doesn't require the "event->human description"
formatter to exist. If it does, it uses it, but if it doesn't, it sends you
a blank email, a json dump, a bare link, whatever it finds in the raw
event. That really shouldn't happen. I only kept FMN enabled because those
emails are sufficiently rare (a few per week at max, I think) and the good
notifications are useful.
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