On Tue, 2022-04-05 at 10:52 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS > > Important, relevant points from that thread (yes, I reread the entire > thread) that have informed this change: > > * Some machines are BIOS-only. This change does not prevent their > use > yet, but they are effectively deprecated. grub2 (our default > bootloader) is already capable of both BIOS and UEFI booting. > * Drawing a clear year cutoff, let alone a detailed list of hardware > this change affects, is basically impossible. This is unfortunate > but > unlikely to ever change. > * There is no migration story from Legacy BIOS to UEFI - > repartitioning effectively mandates a reinstall. As a result, we > don’t drop support for existing Legacy BIOS systems yet, just new > installations. > * There is no way to deprecate hardware without causing some amount > of friction. > * While at the time AWS did not support UEFI booting, that is no > longer the case and they support UEFI today. > Even though aws supports UEFI, many vps providers do not(Vultr and Linode are some examples). But having a soft corner for Systemd-boot and UEFI in general, I think there could be a middle ground. I believe most BIOSes can boot GPT formated disk although there are few that can not and I believe windows never supported this config. But since most of the remaining consumers which real need this configs are VPSes which generaly do not dual boot with windows. Also we can drop support for all bios only bootloader as grub is good enough here. If there is a way to push these companies to to switch to UEFI based VM , that should be done. But removing all other bios config except for bios + grub + gpt could be a fesible starting point. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)
Marc Pervaz Boocha via devel Tue, 05 Apr 2022 08:35:39 -0700
- Re: F37 Change: D... Michael Catanzaro
- Re: F37 Change: D... Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
- Re: F37 Change: Depre... Gerd Hoffmann
- Re: F37 Change: D... Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
- Re: F37 Change: D... Neal Gompa
- Re: F37 Change: D... David Duncan
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate ... Javier Martinez Canillas
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Lega... Michael Catanzaro
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy B... Robbie Harwood
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS ... Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (Syst... Marc Pervaz Boocha via devel
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (Syst... Ralf Corsépius
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (Syst... Tom Hughes via devel
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS ... Neal Gompa
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy B... Tom Hughes via devel
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Lega... Neal Gompa
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy B... Gregory Bartholomew
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Lega... Neal Gompa
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Lega... Robbie Harwood
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Lega... Chris Murphy
- Re: F37 Change: Deprecate ... Gregory Bartholomew