On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 03:31:43PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 3:17:43 PM EST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:37:48AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 20:19 +0100, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
> > > > Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 9:43 AM Sérgio Basto
> > > > > > <sergio(a)serjux.com&gt; wrote: ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a big BTW when /etc/init.d/network will be removed or migrate to
> > > > > > systemd scripts ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > rpm -qf /etc/init.d/network --qf "packge =
> > > > > > %{sourcerpm}\nsub-package =
> > > > > > %{name}\n"
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > packge = initscripts-10.09-1.fc34.src.rpm
> > > > > > sub-package = network-scripts
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's deprecated and expected to be retired eventually. I doubt a
> > > > > "port" would ever happen.
> > > > 
> > > > initscripts is needed by audit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2029105
> > 
> > This is really sad. Somebody who understands audit should just propose a
> > solution. We shouldn't have an archaic technology kept in Fedora for 10
> > years because of one package.
> 
> I think audit can be moved to initscripts-service in Fedora. Would that help?

No, just moving things around is not the point. We want auditd to be managed
as a first-class systemd service, without pulling in all the shell baggage.

I know that you said that the scripts are needed because of "magic stuff™"
that the scripts do, but sorry, that's not a justification: *everything* that
can be done using a shell script can also be reimplemented independently.
Right now audit pulls in the whole initscripts stack, this should all be 
replaced
by some small helper. (Maybe a separate binary, or a small shell script, or
maybe something in auditctl…. I don't know because I don't know audit.)

Zbyszek
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