Hi Otto,

Thanks for your thorough response because it confirms that:
- I was reading the right pages
- They are confusing.

I fully agree that it is suboptimal to involve releng in "unorphaning".
I will try to entice someone to sponsor me for packaging. The fact that I
am still interested is a testament to my tenacity.

-Blaise

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:32 PM Otto Urpelainen <otu...@iki.fi> wrote:

> Hello Blaise,
>
> I am not familiar with this particular package, but about becoming a
> packager and unorphaning packages in general:
>
> Blaise Pabon kirjoitti 18.11.2021 klo 16.35:
> > This is my first fedora package.
> > (I have tried before, but not made it this far.)
>
> Good luck, I hope you make it this time!
>
> > In the spirit of begging forgiveness rather than permission, I opened:
> > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10393
>
> There is no need involve releng when unorphaning packages. Packagers can
> do that themselves, with the Take button that you are already familiar
> with.
>
> I assume you filed the ticket because of section Claiming Ownership of
> an Orphaned Package [1] in the Package Maintainer Docs. That section
> needs to be clarified a bit. In your case releng cannot (or perhaps
> should not?) help you — you just have to gain access to the packager so
> that you can help yourself.
>
> > Is the next step for me to:
> >
> > - get added to the packagers group so that I can "take" ownership
>
> Yes. Instructions are at How to Get Sponsored into the Packager Group [2].
>
> Also this page needs to be improved, the instructions are not very clear
> for your case. I would say a good way to proceed would be to first do
> enough of the things listed in "Convincing someone to sponsor you", then
> submit a ticket to the sponsors ticketing system [3], listing all those
> things.
>
> > - use my fork to update the broken dependencies and submit a PR?
>
> That will not directly help. The package is orphaned, so there is no
> maintainer to merge your pull request and issue a new build.
>
> However, submitting pull requests is one of the suggested ways to
> convince somebody to sponsor you. So please do open a pull request. It
> helps you get sponsored, and as a bonus, when you eventually get
> sponsored, you can merge the pull request and proceed to build the package.
>
> Regards,
> Otto
>
> [1]:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Orphaning_Process/#claiming_ownership_of_an_orphaned_package
> [2]:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/How_to_Get_Sponsored_into_the_Packager_Group/
> [3]: https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/
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