Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 04:32, Michael Schroeder <m...@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 07:43:02AM -0000, Daniel Alley wrote:
>> > Another issue - which is not per-se a security issue but it's still a 
>> > problem - is that deltarpm uses md5 checksums pervasively.  They're 
>> > everywhere.  And it uses its own implementation of md5 which doesn't 
>> > respect FIPS, so even when the user has *explicitly* configured their 
>> > system to not use md5 for anything security-relevant, libdeltarpm won't 
>> > know or care.
>>
>> They are used as a consistency check, it might as well use crc32.
>> So I don't see why FIPS is a concern for you.
>>
>
> In order to get the overall system to be FIPS (and equivalent EU/RU/CN
> ones) certified all the implementations of various functions have to
> be audited and reviewed. Some must be able to be turned off no matter
> what. It doesn't matter if 99 of the 100 versions of md5um are only
> for consistency, they must be able to be turned off/not used and not
> affect the system.

I don't think that's quite accuroate.  If the crypto primitive isn't
being used for security, then FIPS isn't interested - FIPS is only
certifying the cryptography used, and this isn't it.  (It's non-FIPS
relevant.)

This leads to a very common workaround for legacy cryptosystems of
tunneling the "bad" crypto in something else: one example is interacting
with RC4 and NTLM, where they're still used but over a tunnel (TLS, VPN,
etc.) that doesn't expose them.

Be well,
--Robbie

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