On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:38 PM Ben Cotton <bcot...@redhat.com> wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/retire_NIS_user_space_utils > > > == Summary == > > This change is about retiring the ypbind, yp-tools, and ypserv > packages, and removal of the {nis,yp}domainname user-space utility > programs from the hostname package. > > > == Owner == > > * Name: [[User:besser82 | Björn Esser]] > * Email: besse...@fedoraproject.org > > > == Detailed Description == > Those utility programs used to be present on virtually any UNIX system > for decades, but are starting to become more and more deprecated. > Also NIS(+) is known for not being secure at all. As we are going to > [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_NIS_support_from_PAM > remove the support for NIS(+) in PAM] during this development cycle, > we also should get rid of those. > > > == Feedback == > There was some discussion on > [ > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/T662DD2FD3YNPTVTOPCYFQRSOQCJWCSZ/ > the fedora-devel mailing-list]. Some people are reluctant about the > removal of NIS(+) user-space support, while most are okay with it as > there are more secure alternatives (LDAP, FreeIPA, etc.) available. > The FPL is +1 on doing so. > > > == Benefit to Fedora == > With this change we start directing our users and developers to move > away from NIS(+) to secure alternatives like LDAP and/or FreeIPA. > > > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: > ** Retire the ypbind, yp-tools, and ypserv packages from Fedora. > Have you talked with the maintainers of these packages at all? I can't recall if any of them replied in the RFC thread before, but it would be (in my opinion) very bad form to retire a package without asking for the maintainer's input and opinions. (It might even be good to get one of/some of the maintainers as change owners on this proposal as well to show they are involved in this). -Ian > ** Remove the {nis,yp}domainname user-space utility programs from the > hostname package. > * Other developers: > ** Test this change. > * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10352 #10352] > * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) > * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) > * Alignment with Objectives: N/A > > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > Users that were relying on support for NIS(+) will need to move to > secure alternatives like LDAP and/or FreeIPA. > > > == How To Test == > Check whether the named utility programs are still installed on your > system after upgrading. If they are gone, everything is fine. > > > == User Experience == > For some users this change may be a bit disruptive and it may require > some learning curve for switching to alternative solutions. > > > == Dependencies == > There are actually no external dependencies. > > > == Contingency Plan == > * Contingency mechanism: Unretire the packages and build them for Fedora > 36. > * Contingency deadline: At beta freeze. > * Blocks release? Yes. > > > == Documentation == > The documentation about those utility programs should be dropped, if > there even is any. > > > == Release Notes == > The NIS(+) user-space utility programs have been removed from the > distribution. > > > -- > Ben Cotton > He / Him / His > Fedora Program Manager > Red Hat > TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >
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