On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> 
> It's not like making changes and breaking upgrades is acceptable in
> Fedora Linux either. It's just that the Fedora CoreOS WG has not
> participated in the main development process and rolled back changes
> instead of adapting to them, which has frustrated pretty much
> everyone. The containers team in particular was extremely unhappy to
> find out cgroup v1 was still used in FCOS. 

This was extensively discussed before: 
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/373
And has been since multiple times.  I don't think rehashing it here is useful.  
Members from the github.com/containers team were definitely aware.

The bottom line is FCOS includes docker by default because Container Linux did 
and for other reasons.  That's different from other editions.

> I was pretty cheesed off
> when I discovered the sqlite rpmdb feature was rolled back in FCOS.

This one however was a great example of both teams (rpm team and rpm-ostree 
team) being unaware of the need to coordinate here.  The design for the 
migration that landed in rpm upstream fundamentally clashes with rpm-ostree's 
transactional model.  But this one is also now fixed in Fedora 34.

We're still dealing with further fallout from this in e.g. 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1938928 though because the FCOS 
team keeps our tooling and code tightly bound to RHCOS (RHEL8).
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