On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 22:40 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> 
> > Starting from a minimal install with plymouth omitted, adding just
> > plymouth itself pulls in 3 packages (plymouth, plymouth-core-libs,
> > plymouth-scripts) with an installed size of 621K. Adding plymouth-
> > system-theme pulls in 32 packages with an installed size of 24M. So
> > putting plymouth-system-theme in @core would substantially inflate the
> > size of @core in terms of both number of packages and overall installed
> > size. Removing plymouth from @core would not save a lot in terms of
> > packages or space.
> > 
> > So, I guess the question here is, what do we do?
> > 
> > 1) Remove plymouth from @core
> > 2) Add plymouth-system-theme to @core
> > 3) Make Hans/Ray/someone fix the plymouth bug
> 
> 1) clearly gets my vote, not just because I don't have time to work on 3)
> but also because to me it seems like the right thing to do. Plymouth is
> a boot splash, its goal is to make the boot look pretty / hide all the
> scary log messages in use-cases where we want this.  The text fallback
> splash is not pretty. In general if it shows instead of the graphical
> splash the fact that the text fallback shows is considered a bug.

Well, you could still argue it's prettier than a wall-o-text boot. And
it *does* hide the wall-o-text.

> So either the server spin wants a pretty boot and then they should fix the
> bug of the text splash showing by installing plymouth-system-theme, or the
> server spin does not want a pretty boot and then there should be no
> plymouth at all.

What if we want something arguably-prettier than wall-o-text, but don't
want an extra 32 packages and 24M of storage used up?
-- 
Adam Williamson
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