On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 14:06, Alex Perez <ape...@alexperez.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> On 2/13/2021 9:51:48 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 05:15, Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 13/02/2021 09:11, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>> > Dnia Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:16:26PM +0100, Daniel Pocock napisaƂ(a):
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12/02/2021 21:19, Justin Forbes wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:21 AM Ben Cotton <bcot...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Power4kPageSize
>> >>>>
>> >>>> == Summary ==
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On ppc64le, the kernel is currently compiled for 64k page size.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This change proposes using the more common 4k page size.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Some things, like the AMD Radeon GPU drivers, firmware or related
>> >>>> code, appear to be completely non-functional on the 64k page size.
>> >>>> Insufficient upstream developers are testing such issues on this
>> >>>> architecture.
>> >>>
>> >>> Just as there are many things that expect the 64K page size.  I am not
>> >>> doing this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin
>> >>
>> >> Can you please identify some of the things that expect 64k?
>> >>
>> >> If the GPU drivers don't work that makes it a complete non-starter for
>> >> many workstation users, or they have to compile their own kernels or
>> >> obtain custom kernels from another user.
>> >
>> >   Or just fix the GPU drivers. They're open source, after all.
>>
>> The GPUs also have firmware blobs
>>
>>
> OK I think we need to back up a whole bunch here and talk directly about
> what is wanted and going on. I am going to try an outline what I have
> picked up from months of this back and forth:
>
> 1. There is some sort of PowerPC workstation which is going 'to market'
> somewhere soon.
>
> *Alex Perez:*
> Wellll, it's actually been on the market for a few years. There are
> several variants. I've had my Talos II Lite board since January of 2019.
>
>
> 2. It will have high powered video cards of a PC style so will be using
> the same 'firmware' that would be in x86_64.
>
> *Alex Perez:*
> Not will, does. Right now.
>
>
> 3. Those drivers expect x86_64 4k buffer sizes.
>
> *Alex Perez:*
> Some do, some don't.
>
>
> 4. Daniel would like to have Fedora Linux as an option or the operating
> system on it.
> 5. They have been trying to work out through various tickets how to make
> this happen.
>
> Please correct the items above if needed. The questions that I don't see
> having been asked is:
> 1. Is Fedora interested in being offered on this hardware?
>
> *Alex Perez:*
> Err, people are already running Fedora on this exact hardware. You seem to
> think this is not something that's happening. You're mistaken.
>


>From what had been said, I thought this was new systems which were not the
ones already on the market. Thank you both for the corrections.

-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
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