On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:26 AM Panu Matilainen <pmati...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/3/21 2:06 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 6:39 AM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 03. 02. 21 10:13, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> Just woke up to the fact that F34 is about to be branched, and that we
> >>> originally planned to phase out BDB rpmdb support to read-only in Fedora 
> >>> 34 [1].
> >>>
> >>> That's too close to comfort for me, and might be considered too late for 
> >>> other
> >>> reasons too. So a slight change of plans, lets postpone this to F35, and 
> >>> handle
> >>> this right away after F34 has been branched. Rpm >= 4.17 which is to be 
> >>> expected
> >>> later in F35 will not *have* read-write BDB support at all, so disabling 
> >>> it
> >>> early gives folks a little of leeway where things can still be temporarily
> >>> reverted if something unexpected breaks.
> >>>
> >>> Should we file a separate system-wide change for this, or can we proceed 
> >>> on the
> >>> basis that this was already accepted as a part of the sqlite change [1]?
> >>
> >> I'd say this is already accepted as a part of the sqlite change, but 
> >> please open
> >> a placeholder issue at https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes to make 
> >> sure
> >> we document this in the release notes of Fedora 35.
> >>
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure why you think we need to postpone this, since
> >
> > 1) branching is the *early* part of the cycle, not the late part and
> > 2) Koji is already doing bootstrap builds now, explicitly because of
> > BDB being dropped in Fedora 34.
> >
> > We accepted the Fedora 33 Change with the premise you were going to
> > drop in Fedora 34. Reverting to enabling the rw BDB backend is pretty
> > straightforward, so I still suggest that you actually *still* do it
> > now and file a release note issue about it being dropped in F34.
>
> Well, if we people actually *want* us to go ahead and axe it right now,
> I'm not going to push back :D
>
> The idea of postponing was to be, as ever, playing with safe with rpm
> changes which are best dealt with long before branching point. But of
> course you're right in that this is an easy thing to revert back if
> things do go wrong.
>

I'd rather you do it now, please. It's not like you're ripping out
code from RPM right now, you're just flipping a switch off. :)

Now is as good of a time as any to figure out what's left to fix, if anything.





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