> Am 30.01.2021 um 19:41 schrieb Fabio Valentini <decatho...@gmail.com>:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 7:24 PM Peter Boy <p...@uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 30.01.2021 um 17:45 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel 
>>> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>:
>>> 
>>> On 30.01.2021 16:58, Peter Boy wrote:
>>>> But it’s perfectly usable for Fedora Workstation or Server and almost 
>>>> indispensable for some development projects, e.g. Java (and vi/vim for a 
>>>> terminal environment). Why should alternatives not be usable there?  Or 
>>>> what is a suitable  and adequate replacement?
>>> 
>>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Alternatives/
>> 
>> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I don’t see a connection to immutable 
>> Fedora (it is about drop-in, user configurable, etc). Or do I miss something?
> 
> If you read the Packaging Guidelines, they actually explicitly mention
> that vi / vim are a bad example for using the alternatives system -
> because they're not drop-in replacements.

Yes, I got that (and mentioned the drop-in criteria), but the original post can 
/could be interpreted as, alternatives is / has to be altogether "banned" from 
Fedora.  And that seems to me to be the trigger of the discussion here.

> Additionally, as far as I know, OSTree based Fedora variants do not
> execute any RPM scriptlets, but implement their own handling of e.g.
> ldconfig and such things.
> And alternatives is definitely not compatible with OSTree - according
> to these bug reports, at least Java alternatives are broken -
> apparently primarily because OSTree stores configuration in /var
> instead of /etc:

Yes, but what will we do about it? The fix mentioned previously (manually 
symlink) is not as powerful as alternatives. But it may be a bad idea to remove 
alternatives from workstation (and server) just because it doesn’t work with 
silverblue. That’s the core of discussion here.

Peter

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