On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 16:23, James Szinger <jszin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:51:49 +0100
> clime <cl...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> > Well, the users here are still packagers here no? I thought the "User"
> > in the title means "end user" who shouldn't be affected by it. Maybe
> > Ben can clarify this.
>
> I am making a distinction between Fedora packagers who use the Fedora
> infrastructure to build RPMs for the Fedora repositories, and second
> and third party packagers who use their own infrastructure.  External
> packagers count as ‘users’ for the purposes of change proposals,
> especially infrastructure changes such as this.  Many change proposals
> have no effect for external packagers, or have the same effect as for
> the general user base.  This proposal, however, seems potentially
> disruptive for external packagers, and I want to see those issues
> specifically addressed in the change proposal.
>
> I will advocate that external packagers are of strategic importance to
> the Fedora Project.  The software they provide encourages the adoption
> of Fedora.  They form a pool a potential Fedora packagers.  They are
> the technical experts that support the local users.  They are
> fundamental to the Fedora Mission:
>
>     Fedora creates an innovative platform for hardware, clouds, and
>     containers that enables software developers and community members
>     to build tailored solutions for their users.
>
> Supporting external packagers drives the Four Foundations: Freedom,
> Friends, Features, and First.

I agree the change proposal should address those issues.

>
> Jim
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