On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:11 PM Richard W.M. Jones <rjo...@redhat.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:22:26PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > [I posted to the Fedora Council list, but reposting here for wider
> > distribution.]
> >
> > As mentioned, we're looking at moving the Fedora Council's main chat to
> > Matrix. And as part of that, we're considering a hosted Element server --
> > which obviously could go quite beyond just #fedora-council. Neal
> suggested a
> > video meeting to talk with interested people about this, and so I set up
> > this when-is-good
> >
> >    http://whenisgood.net/k5brwbd
> >
> > Anyone interested in a preliminary chat about all of this, please sign up
> > with your FAS id and availability. Nothing is sent in stone or decided
> > already, although I must say I'm pretty excited about Element's open
> source
> > software-as-a-service offering based on what I've heard from them so far.
>
> There's quite a lot wrong here - a video meeting(!) to discuss
> dropping a commonly used and well established channel of
> communication.  Well, I guess at least you didn't decide to use the
> proprietary awfulness of Slack.
>

Rich, IRC is not being dropped, it is being bridged to modern, "IRC-native"
(for lack of better word in my vocabulary) platform. Contributors who
prefer to stay on IRC are welcome to do so and won't really notice any
difference.


>
> Couldn't you just talk about this on email?
>

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/the-future-of-real-time-chat-discussion-for-the-fedora-council/24628


>
> Let me start off:
>
> What's the reason why hosting your own server for a fairly uncommon
> chat protocol is better than continuing to use IRC?
>

I too love dinosaurs... but I also work on 4 different computers and two
mobile devices every day. Having to literally switch hardware to
participate in IRC meetings is pain in the ass for some of our contributors
(myself included.)


>
> Rich.
>
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