Am 29.09.20 um 10:19 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>
> Also, people would react very allergic if we'd start sending all DNS
> traffic to google or so. I mean, you can't believe how pissed people
> are that we have a fallback in place that if no DNS servers have been
> configured at all or acquired via DHCP we fall back to Cloudflare +
> Google DNS servers. Downstream distros (Debian…) tend to patch that
> fallback out even... 
>

I hope they all patch it out. Google NS Service may be reliable, but
with GDPR in place in Europe, you really can't sell your user base out
to google and cloudflare like mozilla did.

DNS data, because a user IP is involved, is personal data per definition
in Germany. You, of all others, should know that as the Kammergericht,
Berlin stated it in their 2013 judgement.
So, if my pc is sending a dns request to a google or CF dns server,  and
it's a company pc, it's a GDPR violation. And those are not the only
data protection laws in the world.

The only valid way to handle a none working DNS is to NOT CIRCUMVENT IT.
If the admin of that network has failed to set them up correctly, any
other device will fail too or they too have hardcoded dns servers
somewhere. I would prefer to be informed that dns is not setuped
correctly to fix the mistake instead of silently working around it. (btw
thats was the job of the replaced /etc/resolv.conf , to honour the
nameservers the user wants, not some place to store the result of dhcp )

Linux is known to the public as a data protecting os and not one that
rants out it's users to cloudflare. A few postings ago i thought, that
reenabling dnssec would solve the issue, but now I tend to vote for a
revert on the use of systemd-resolved in Fedora if I need to worry about
my dns having privacy issues.

Marius Schwarz
Germany
EU



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